What's the difference between using the Tor and Ceno browsers?
> Unlike Tor Browser, Ceno Browser is not a tool for anonymity, which is Tor's primary purpose. In the Tor network, network traffic is encrypted and routed through a network of relays run by volunteers, and appears to originate from the IP address of an exit node. Tor is an excellent option for privacy from Internet surveillance and website operators. If it works in your network environment, we recommend it, provided that you've also read their support documentation.
> Ceno's primary distinction from a VPN is that it does attempt to route all of your website requests through the decentralized network. When a website is available without restriction, Ceno will simply connect to it like a normal web browser. Also, Ceno users cache and share content with each other. This reduces the strain on censorship circumvention nodes and improves deliverability.
You dont need the Web to browse web pages. You need 1) a BitTorrent bootstrap server in your network 2) web pages cache inside your network 3) Ceno browser
This is why Ceno scrapes, caches then announces hundreds of media websites on BT https://schedule.ceno.app/
If the cache is inside your network (e.g. Iran) then that website is available through Ceno browser
In Public mode, Ceno will look into the BitTorrent network to see if another Ceno user has recently shared the requested page. If the service can identify the requested page, it will retrieve that page from another user's device. If the content is not available, Ceno will contact several Injectors to request that website and have it delivered to you.
In Personal mode, you will only contact the Injectors to have that website fetched and delivered to you. The search will not connect to the BitTorrent network and will not attempt to locate the content on other users' devices.
To ensure that your Ceno client can always contact an Injector, we have also created Bridges. If the Injectors are blocked on your network, the Ceno app will look for available Bridges, who will forward your request to the Injectors. The Ceno network currently features around 6,000 Bridges. Their number is always growing.
So on the one side it's some kind of shared cache of website resources, and on the other some kind of distributed tor-like edge network?
Quite clever! I wonder if it works well though, and if there is a risk of content injection by adversaries.
How is Ceno making sure someone is not poisoning the cache?
edit: I try to read the paper and it's just referencing some RFC, which is not making me smart at all.
Again, how am I sure that when I am reading something from the cache, it's really serving what the site was serving somewhere else, and the person saving it there didn't modify it? Is it signed by the original page SSL cert?
edit2: ahh the "injector server", which is run by Ceno, retrieves the page and signs it. So you are moving the trust to Ceno and the central Ceno server actually does the browsing...? So the injectors can just see all the traffic? But that's inevitable I guess, someone needs to see the traffic
Am I reading this right? You do still need internet access, to actually retrieve the page from someone else. Also I'm not sure how this will reduce data costs. Do providers charge different amounts for getting data from different servers? The same amount of data is still going into your device, it's just coming from somewhere else than usual
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What's the difference between using the Tor and Ceno browsers?> Unlike Tor Browser, Ceno Browser is not a tool for anonymity, which is Tor's primary purpose. In the Tor network, network traffic is encrypted and routed through a network of relays run by volunteers, and appears to originate from the IP address of an exit node. Tor is an excellent option for privacy from Internet surveillance and website operators. If it works in your network environment, we recommend it, provided that you've also read their support documentation.
> Ceno's primary distinction from a VPN is that it does attempt to route all of your website requests through the decentralized network. When a website is available without restriction, Ceno will simply connect to it like a normal web browser. Also, Ceno users cache and share content with each other. This reduces the strain on censorship circumvention nodes and improves deliverability.
source: https://ceno.app/en/faq.html
>Ceno users cache
Good way to get in trouble for cp
EU: Digital Services Act Article 5: Caching https://www.eu-digital-services-act.com/Digital_Services_Act...
This is why Ceno scrapes, caches then announces hundreds of media websites on BT https://schedule.ceno.app/
If the cache is inside your network (e.g. Iran) then that website is available through Ceno browser
Quite clever! I wonder if it works well though, and if there is a risk of content injection by adversaries.
edit: I try to read the paper and it's just referencing some RFC, which is not making me smart at all.
Again, how am I sure that when I am reading something from the cache, it's really serving what the site was serving somewhere else, and the person saving it there didn't modify it? Is it signed by the original page SSL cert?
edit2: ahh the "injector server", which is run by Ceno, retrieves the page and signs it. So you are moving the trust to Ceno and the central Ceno server actually does the browsing...? So the injectors can just see all the traffic? But that's inevitable I guess, someone needs to see the traffic