Changes to OpenTTD Distribution on Steam (openttd.org)

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[−] TuxMark5 63d ago
This doesn't feel right for me. OpenTTD is so much superior in every way compared to the original TTD, that noone in their right mind would ever play the original. So Atari now, while spending zero effort compared to the years of work that OpenTTD devs put in, will basically sell OpenTTD as if was their own creation. People who buy the new TTD will simply play OpenTTD anyway, since it's so much better.

I might be wrong, but it feels like Atari are like parasites in this situation feeding off the hard work of OpenTTD devs.

[−] ndiddy 63d ago
Obviously having OpenTTD available for free on Steam would jeopardize Atari's paid rerelease of Transport Tycoon Deluxe, so I think this is a good compromise. Hopefully they rigged it up so the assets from Transport Tycoon Deluxe get picked up automatically by OpenTTD when you install the bundle. I also hope that Atari will be sharing some of the revenue from the bundle with the OpenTTD team as part of this arrangement. They've spent the last 20+ years adding nice quality of life features and keeping the game playable, and I think they deserve to be rewarded for that effort. Going back to stock TTD after playing OpenTTD feels like a massive downgrade, like going from vim to BSD vi.
[−] xyzzy_plugh 63d ago
It would be nice if someone could provide some explanation as to why this situation is necessary. Did Atari's lawyers go full tilt?
[−] jjmarr 63d ago
I like Simutrans more because the cargo and passengers have destinations in mind.

TTD and OpenTTD do not which incentivizes mechanisms to dump everyone at the edge of the map.

Aside from that they're both transport games with bad UIs.

[−] koolala 63d ago
Atari got a game I like called Awesomenauts and revived it from being shutdown F2P to $20. They paid an old dev to get it playable on a temporary contract. Though it has a few rough qualities I'm glad it's playable again.
[−] nout 63d ago
What is the story with OpenGFX then? It sounds like OpenTTD is completely new codebase and OpenGFX (which I also helped with) is completely new graphics. Why does one have to pay for that?
[−] singron 63d ago
If you like OpenTTD, you may want to try OpenTTD-JGRPP (JGRennison's Patch Pack). It has a bunch of additional QoL improvements and additional features. It was never distributed on Steam, so nothing has changed there.

https://github.com/JGRennison/OpenTTD-patches

[−] laserdancepony 62d ago
In my opinion this is just another example of our broken copyright system. That copyright should have expired years ago, so no troll company which happens to resurrect Ataris corpse for the tenth time can pull stuff like this.

But the lobbyism is too strong for a reasonable 15 or 20 year copyright limit.

[−] khoirul 63d ago
Lots of words, but nowhere does it say: why?. Did Chris Sawyer sue them or something?
[−] basilikum 63d ago
OpenTTD with its beyond clunky UI has a special spot in my heart.

There is even an Android version with the same very much not touch friendly (but somewhat customizable) UI.

[−] r2vcap 63d ago
Atari? I never expected to see that ancient name again. If I remember correctly, I've been playing OpenTTD for more than a decade without the original TTD assets, and I usually build it from source, so this change won’t really affect me. Still, it feels a bit strange (even if it may be somewhat legitimate) to see Atari suddenly asserting rights over it.
[−] gbraad 62d ago
Wade Rosen resurrected a failing Atari, but from multiple interviews it doesn't feel like he is really OK with emulation, as he often refers to the piracy part of this. I feel this was an action they as project did not have much say in, ... as they also clearly stay away from answering a why