Juggalo makeup blocks facial recognition technology (2019) (consequence.net)

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[−] throwway120385 58d ago
The only way to meaningfully defeat surveillance technology is to make a constitutional amendment that limits its use privately and publicly. We keep fighting it technologically which is an arms race. A cultural solution is the only path forward that will see meaningful success.
[−] echelon_musk 58d ago
Shamelessly hijacking this story to recommend The Private Eye digital comic [0]. Set in a future where everyone has normalised the wearing of masks in public to preserve their anonymity. The protagonist refuses to get a driving license because he wouldn't want a photo of himself in a database.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Private_Eye

[−] mcv 58d ago
Not surprising at all. It's a form of dazzle camouflage that has previously been shown to confuse facial recognition[0]. It's probably possible to design it to be more effective yet less intrusive than juggalo makeup.

I would have actually expected it to be more popular by now.

[0] https://adam.harvey.studio/cvdazzle/

[−] refulgentis 58d ago
Clickbait, it’s a couple tweets microwaved and the 3rd paragraph is “well, except for modern facial recognition”
[−] soopypoos 58d ago
I wonder if I'm more likely to get denied entry wearing juggalo face or classic camo paint
[−] deltoidmaximus 58d ago
In Fall; or, Dodge in Hell by Neal Stephenson one of the characters happens by a group of young women wearing devices that project constantly changing colored light patterns onto their faces to prevent facial recognition tracking. It's barely even mentioned in the book but I wondered how viable that was of an idea. The character's only thought on the devices IIRC was that most people only occasionally wore them.
[−] throwawaypath 58d ago
Did I accidentally sleep in a time machine? Front page of HN right now has articles on Juggalos and Afroman.
[−] ChrisMarshallNY 58d ago
I guess LiveNation won't be running ICP concerts, then...
[−] Larrikin 58d ago
In 2018 it was already common knowledge that gait analysis was more accurate than facial recognition at the time. This would have been defeatable then.
[−] adamsmark 58d ago
Whoop! Whoop!

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[−] bigfishrunning 58d ago
Miracles all around us
[−] gcr 58d ago
Hey I wrote a paper about this exactly ten years ago! https://arxiv.org/abs/1602.04504

I focused on facebook’s detector (not recognizer) for reasons explained in the intro, but face rec has come a long way since then.

[−] beau_g 58d ago
It would be interesting to first create a taxonomy of juggalo face paint patterns a la aruco markers/April tags, then see if a sufficiently large crowd of juggalos could be used to calibrate cameras
[−] hackitup7 58d ago
I'll make sure to wear my Juggalo makeup the next time I visit China to avoid their face scanning technology. That'll surely help me blend into the background.
[−] pgporada 58d ago
Whoop whoop
[−] schmeichel 58d ago
Where my Juggalos at??
[−] wr639 58d ago
So maybe they may be smarter then they get credited for being. Probably not. But now anyone feeling uncomfortable about facial recognition tech now know what they can do to combat it if they chose. One question. Can you get thru the airport and onto a plan wearing the makeup?
[−] vondur 58d ago
I was hoping my corpse paint would also be effective at blocking facial recognition too.
[−] lucasay 58d ago
I’m more curious about how robust this is against modern systems. A lot of newer facial recognition models are trained on occlusions, masks, and heavy makeup — so this might be less effective than people assume.
[−] Findecanor 58d ago
(2019) ... but sadly increasingly relevant.
[−] mixmastamyk 58d ago
Sounds like a lot of work. Are Groucho glasses effective, perhaps with obscured lenses?