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[−] taspeotis 56d ago
[−] askonomm 56d ago
So I buy a device ... with my own money ... which I supposedly then own, but then I need to ask some corporation permission to use it, and it treats me like a toddler by giving me a 24 hour wait period for the ability to install applications on that device? I'd understand if this "feature" was a part of Parental Controls, but I'm not a child, so this is insulting. I see Google saw how Microsoft likes to spit on its users and wanted a piece of that action. How is this legal?
[−] butz 56d ago
Following this logic, adding a checkbox "I swear this app does not contain malware" to app publishing process would solve the problem with malicious apps on Play Store, right?
[−] phr4ts 56d ago
I hope consumers return these phones in droves like Windows RT and Windows 10 S. The issue is that sideloading isn’t an immediate concern—users would only realize the limitation later, when it’s too late to return the device.
[−] gabordemooij 56d ago
Would it not be nicer to have a dual boot phone where one OS is baked in rom and only contains certain necessary government/banking/medical service apps and the other is just completely free to use for whatever purpose? Just a thought...
[−] mindslight 56d ago
The only sane way to buy a device is to pick a user-representing OS (eg Graphene), pick a device from its list of supported devices, and then install your desired OS on that device as soon as you get it as part of your setup process. Then if it's 24, 48, or 168 hours to receive your unlock code to install the secure OS, it's all just part of the setup process (and if they refuse to unlock for whatever reason, then you're still in the return period!). The longer you let the surveillance industry keep its hooks in you, the more friction and dependence they will add to every single thing you want to do that goes against their business interests.
[−] BrandoElFollito 56d ago
This is what I have with my bank. I need to wait 24h after adding a new recipient for wire transfers.

Being treated as a toddler by an organization that is itself completely disfunctional is mzking me angry.

[−] ece 56d ago
There should be one screen each for self signing individual apps and it's updates, and another one for adding a public app store key to allow verifying apps and updates from that key. That would be factual and not scary. Yes, the question should be asked with the play store too.

People should by default not trust a developer or store or OS for that matter that is scaring you into doing something.

[−] pmarin 56d ago
WHy not just add a hardware switch to allow Android sideloading?

Are these multibillion companies so incompetent to not think about it?

[−] Markoff 56d ago
this was already discussed, so no point for dupe, but there is no wait period for ADB install

and AFAIK this also affects only unverified developers, though hard to imagine why would someone install app from verified dev outside the play store, for the record I don't have gapps in my phone and use Aurora

[−] Narkov 56d ago

> Think of it like an ID check at the airport

That's an interesting way of selling this.

[−] tuom1s 56d ago
I may be missing something, but what does the title have to do with the article? There is no mention about any waiting or mandatory reboot. What does OP have in mind?