No Terms. No Conditions (notermsnoconditions.com)

by bayneri 130 comments 259 points
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[−] 0xbadcafebee 52d ago
Remember when people started using WTFPL because it "sounded good", only to later find out it left them and their users legally liable? This is that but for websites.
[−] canacrypto 52d ago
A similar one I made a while back, inspired by South Park's disclaimer before each episode: https://github.com/jmrossy/south-park-license
[−] CobrastanJorji 53d ago
I like how, even when the whole point is to not have any terms or conditions, there are still disclaimers. "Only for lawful purposes," "no warranty," "we are not responsible."

Those are still terms and conditions!

[−] Retr0id 53d ago
I wonder how many one-sentence prompts have made it to the HN front page at this point.
[−] layer8 53d ago

> By accessing or using this site, you acknowledge and accept the following terms.

I’m pretty sure this is already questionable in the EU.

[−] johnplatte 53d ago
Comedically, this doesn't load from my IP address in the Russian Federation. (HN does.)
[−] knorker 53d ago
This does not read like it was written by a professional. Non-professionals writing licenses and T&Cs cause problems because no organization, for profit or not, wants to be dragged into court to get a "common sense" definition of a word or comma defined, at their expense.

I've heard of large organizations reaching out to places who use amateur T&Cs and licenses, saying "if we give you $X, can you dual license this as MIT, Apache, BSD, or hell anything standard?".

> Access is not conditioned on approval

Is this obvious enough legalese to not waste tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees if you get sued?

Note before you reply: I will not argue with you about how obvious it is. If you are actually a lawyer then it'd be interesting to hear your guidance, which I very much understand is not legal advice. If you're not a lawyer then I'm not.

[−] tech_jabroni 53d ago
No alarms, no surprises
[−] tosti 53d ago
Schrödingers terms and conditions
[−] gnfargbl 53d ago

> Access is not conditioned on approval.

The Zen Koan of T&C's.

[−] kilna 52d ago
#5 "Access is not conditioned on approval" would seem to be permission to DDOS.
[−] shevy-java 53d ago
Is that useful for anything?
[−] jborichevskiy 53d ago
I know this is mostly parody, but I'm curious if anyone has good starter templates for something that covers the general stuff and doesn't require a lawyer to customize
[−] amelius 52d ago
The URL basically nulls the license agreement.
[−] catlifeonmars 53d ago
goes without saying

that this site definitely

does not, legally

[−] chopete3 52d ago
It seems a fun and curiosity website. Not for any real use.
[−] tonymet 52d ago
use this if you want a corporation to use your content & IP to make money, while offering nothing to you (or the community) in return.
[−] modzu 52d ago
i do wonder if the world would be a better place if instead of lawyers we had cage matches
[−] Barbing 53d ago
Hope this slop doesn’t get anyone into trouble.

  Last updated: never
  No further pages. No hidden clauses.
Not sure “last updated=never” works, but I don’t make terms and conditions websites.
[−] the_axiom 52d ago
amazing how such a simple website lags to scroll on my phone
[−] weinzierl 53d ago
Just today I asked an LLM:

"Often one generation values things much more than others. Boomers and their wristwatches. One generation is like 'only from my cold dead hands,' the others 'what would I even need this for?!' What are examples of things the youngest generation did away with?"

If OP were a checklist, the answer would have checked every point.

[−] self-portrait 53d ago
No further update.
[−] badrequest 53d ago
hugged to death
[−] steveharing1 53d ago
Last updated: never lol
[−] pugchat 52d ago
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[−] irenetusuq 52d ago
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[−] getverdict 52d ago
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[−] suoer 53d ago
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[−] vincentabolarin 52d ago
Not sure how this is supposed to be useful, but I had a good laugh.
[−] riteshyadav02 53d ago
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