Country that put backdoors in Cisco routers to spy on world bans foreign routers (theregister.com)

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[−] hunter2_ 53d ago
If we set aside geopolitics and purely consider whether tightening the security of private networks is sensible whatsoever: are routers a substantially bigger threat than client devices such as the various IoT knickknacks (smart TVs, smart switches/outlets, smart appliances, etc.)? Controlling the NAT/firewall features is handy for opening ports and working around VLAN segmentation, but that isn't required for many scenarios; a compromised client device can often snoop on the rest of the network and exfiltrate what it discovers just fine even with an uncompromised router.
[−] hedora 52d ago
Unlike most IoT stuff, most routers don't have embedded cameras or ad telemetry, or serve ads.

If they did, they'd be untouchable (since the federal government could buy the data from brokers).

[−] drivingmenuts 53d ago
If I was more paranoid, I'd start thinking the ban is to make it easier to spy on us by limiting our choices to a few domestic vendors who can be coerced by regulatory capture and "for the kids" political rhetoric.
[−] john_strinlai 53d ago
that makes sense, but i suspect it is more likely to be a bribery scheme. ("why not both!" someone yells)
[−] drivingmenuts 53d ago
Sooner or later, some idiot lawmaker/opportunist is going to insist on 1) age checks to connect to a router and 2) content filters for routers, both of which can be used to score cheap political points.
[−] bar000n 52d ago
3) ability to censor(content filter) the opposition also nice to have
[−] pseudohadamard 52d ago
I'd say it's the old "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". Admittedly the current administration has a more than ample supply of both, but I think they do have more stupidity than malice.

Having said that, once someone explains to them in words of one syllable that they've just banned the sale of all of the devices that make the Internet go for the entire electoral base, they'll TACO so fast it'll make your head spin.

[−] nizbit 53d ago
Cisco been hiding this in plain sight since 2004: https://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/CSD4291.pdf

Love seeing pop up like it’s new or something.

[−] jdlyga 53d ago
This is just geopolitics. You should've seen what the US and Europe did during the Cold War.
[−] soumyaskartha 53d ago
The audacity of banning others for doing exactly what you got caught doing. At least be subtle about
[−] _slih 52d ago
the ban covers all foreign-made consumer routers but practically every router is manufactured abroad, even the ones sold by American companies. the only domestic exception is Starlink, iirc
[−] orwin 53d ago
My company new installation now use Siemens routers. It seems a few will keep Cisco though, so we have yet another provider. More work for me I guess.
[−] juliusceasar 53d ago
Israel did the same in Netherlands with the biggest telecom KPN.
[−] mikkupikku 53d ago

> country which once exploited an attack vector is now trying to protect itself on that vector

I have no doubt that American efforts at security on this front are inadaquate, incompetent, etc. But hypocritical? Nah.

[−] tptacek 53d ago
Um, this is not an example of hypocrisy? If I punch you in the nose, I am not a hypocrite if I block your attempt to punch me back.
[−] tosapple 53d ago
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[−] ChrisArchitect 53d ago
[−] themafia 53d ago
A USA company bought an Indian OS to turn into it's SOHO router/firewall product. The results are exactly what you would have expected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4COrX9YHcU

[−] MisterTea 53d ago

> Country that put backdoors into Cisco routers to spy on world bans foreign routers

Says the tech rag hailing from the 5-eyes nation known as the UK...