VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS (v-os.dev)

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[−] yason 52d ago
I bought an Amiga in the early 90's and enjoyed it immensely. Commodore went under and Amiga died.

I bought BeOS in the late 90's and enjoyed it immensely like a breath of fresh air in a sewage pipe. BeOS died.

With my track record I really, really should've bought Windows. Twice, to make sure.

[−] rebolek 52d ago
If you like BeOS, take a look at Haiku https://www.haiku-os.org/ , it's very nice and very usable system based directly on BeOS.
[−] watersb 52d ago
25 years ago, I configured GNOME to run a BeOS-like tabbed window manager. On a sun workstation.

But that's not what this is. Or not only:

Nexus Kernel Bridge

Nexus is Vitruvian's custom Linux kernel subsystem that brings BeOS-style node monitoring, device tracking, and messaging to Linux — making it possible to run Haiku applications on a standard Linux kernel.

It claims to run apps from Haiku, the current open-source implementation of a modern BeOS.

[−] carlesfe 52d ago
I ran BeOS as a daily driver for a few months in the early 2000s. I had a winmodem and Linux couldn't connect to the internet for me, but for some reason, BeOS had drivers, so I used it. It was faster and the desktop environment felt more polished than KDE/Gnome.

Of course, at that time, it was impossible to know which OS would win the wars, so BeOS became my favorite. However, Linux developed very quickly during those years, I got into college and started using UNIX there, winmodem drivers appeared, and that's what I ended up using.

But BeOS still holds a very dear place in my heart. It really was superior to anything else during that era.

[−] donatj 52d ago
The important question becomes can you stack the window decoration "tabs" of different apps into a single stack of tabs like in BeOS?

Demonstrated here (animated):

https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/images/gui-images...

[−] aryonoco 52d ago
Little known fact, a small piece of BeOS survives to this day and is an integral part of Android

BeOS came up with “Binder” for doing inter process communication. Just before Be Inc. was acquired by Palm, some Be engineers somehow convinced management to release Binder as open source, which came to be known as OpenBinder.

After the Palm acquisition many Be engineers moved to a startup called Android Inc, and adopted OpenBinder for IPC. And the rest as they say, is history.

[−] WD-42 52d ago
UI elements that have depth look so mouth-wateringly good now. So over the minimalism and bouncing back hard.
[−] thisislife2 52d ago
This is interesting - a Linux distro that really differentiates itself technically, instead of just having a different GUI / desktop environment.
[−] nathell 52d ago
I almost overlooked this, and then when I didn’t, I almost dismissed this as Yet Another Linux Distro with a custom skin. But no, there’s novelty and exploration in here. There’s attempt to venture off the local maximum. This is a breath of fresh air.
[−] kriro 52d ago
My favorite part of BeOS is the file system. The book can be found freely here: https://www.nobius.org/dbg/
[−] nico 52d ago
BeOS was such an amazing experience back in the day. It really felt magical. Too bad it got shutdown. I wonder what the evolution of it would be like today
[−] prmoustache 52d ago
Anyone remember BlueEyedOS? It had exactly the main goal, building a beos compatible OS on top of the Linux kernel.
[−] aaronbrethorst 52d ago
Vitruvian asks a different question: what would I actually want to do with my computer that I currently can’t?

Only be able to drag a window around the screen from the top left corner

[−] vanderZwan 52d ago
Sort-of unrelated (but very on-brand for people into BeOS I think), it's so satisfying when a webpage is so free of bloat that navigation and latency to clicking on things in general feels instant.
[−] ranger_danger 51d ago
Cosmoe, a similar project that supports running Haiku apps on Linux, has also been recently revived after 18 years: https://pappp.net/?p=95060

There is also a library version where you can use the Haiku API to write Linux apps.

I do have to say... in all my years of software development, as far as system APIs go, BeOS/Haiku has by far been the most pleasant and easy-to-use API I have ever seen, so this is a very welcome addition for me.

[−] rcarmo 52d ago
I hope it’s not just the look. The ability to group tabs from various apps into a single window was the best UX feature it had, and I still miss it sometimes.
[−] kev009 51d ago
This is both ambitious and seemingly not intractable which is a rare goldilocks combination.

As some contrast, consider something like GNUStep. You are never going to get macOS out of GNUStep, no matter how hard you try, because it is too high level (Cocoa) while simultaneously too ambitious. Similarly, with alternate kernels like ReactOS you will never get full replacement of Windows because it is too ambitious and intractable.

The intersection of this project though, it is a cunning insight in using the hardware support of Linux and shedding the graphics layer for something a lot simpler with a minimal kernel module to support the existing mechanics of BeOS. This is more in line with wine, which is and has been useful for a long time, but is even easier. This doesn't mean it will achieve massive user base, but it seems like it will mature fast enough into something dedicated fans can enjoy and use productively.

[−] unixhero 52d ago
Why should users not instead go for Haiku
[−] ofrzeta 52d ago
"Real-time patched Linux kernel for low-latency desktop use" - does this really make sense? I think there have been various efforts like this over the decades but as far as I remember none of them really made a huge difference for the end user.
[−] vibbix 52d ago
Pleasant surprise to hear about this. I've had a fascination with BeOS & Haiku for decades. I am now actually developing a custom website layout themed after BeOS (good excuse to learn Figma!)
[−] _spduchamp 52d ago
BeOS had the BEST icons.
[−] arm 52d ago
[−] shevy-java 52d ago
It's been a pain to try to get ruby to work on Haiku, so I expect that this will be like linux - but worse, in that barely anything works. I like the design choices made by BeOS, but we have 2026 now. Linux kind of showed that practical considerations beat theoretical superiority (except for the desktop segment, where Linux keeps on failing hard; see GTK5 not supporting xorg, it is now the all corporate-dictated wayland era).
[−] lnxg33k1 52d ago

> It’s very easy to use. It features an intuitive desktop

> and adopts KISS principles. Anyone can rapidly feel at

>home and use V\OS. User experience, workflow and comfort

> is key.

What is more intuitive than a button to close a window without a X, in order to make people from every other OSes feel at home https://v-os.dev/img/photogrid.png

-- When words have no meaning

[−] clayhacks 52d ago
Ok maybe I’m too young, but what is BeOS? Everyone here is linking other alternatives, but no one’s linked to the original BeOS. Or is it gone now?
[−] jazzyjackson 52d ago
I’ll try this out with my eink display, interface might look good in grayscale. So far my favorite desktop for this is the Chicago95 theme for xfce
[−] markus_zhang 51d ago
Tangible:

Talking about BeOS, this is the most fantastic piece of technological fiction I read about:

https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/benewsletter/Issue4-8.h...

[−] tecleandor 52d ago
[−] numerio 52d ago
Thank you everyone for commenting! We are going to pubblish small articles on the website to clarify some of the common questions that are popping around. We will also do our best to improve our wording and marketing, thanks everyone for the suggestions and stay tuned!
[−] mac3n 51d ago
My favorite thing about the early BeBox was the Pulse CPU meter, which shows the load on each of the two CPU chips. Clicking on a CPU stopped it. Clicking on the second stopped it as well, which took me a moment to realize.
[−] radiator 51d ago
what we’ve actually created is an alternative Linux desktop that uses neither X nor Wayland, this is very welcome news, since X is allegedly "abandonware" and of course not everybody likes wayland.
[−] s1mn 52d ago
I was never cool enough to run BeOS but I coveted it. It looked so cool and futuristic compared with Windows.

I'm not cool enough to run VitruvianOS either, but i'm glad it exists.

[−] weli 52d ago
Is this using haiku as a kernel or is it a complete re-implementation of BeOs/Haiku API's? I can't tell by their website or github.
[−] rubymamis 52d ago
Can someone list what are some cool/novel BeOS features that other OSes didn’t have at the time and maybe still don’t have?
[−] Redster 51d ago
I'm not getting enough sleep. I read this as ViltrumiteOS. I haven't even watched Invincibles.
[−] voidfunc 51d ago
Very interesting. Wonder if this can run Proton for gaming... this looks about perfect.
[−] ginkgotree 51d ago
I installed BeOS in the 90s as a kid. It was awesome, and I love seeing this.
[−] 0x80h 51d ago
This is pure nostalgia. What a fantastic time playing with BeOS :)
[−] leke 52d ago
So this is a lighter weight alternative to other Linux desktops?
[−] flippyhead 52d ago
Even if the cheaps are weak... is the code strong?
[−] add2 52d ago
How about making Haiku frameworks OS independent?
[−] egorfine 51d ago
With age verification built in, right? right?
[−] jonhohle 52d ago
Is this a new window manager and tracker or something skinned for this use case? Wayland, X11? There’s a screenshots section but the details are sparse.
[−] asadm 52d ago
is there a debian distro that is close to win98. Sorta like ReactOS but can be daily-driven.
[−] a-dub 51d ago
does preempt_rt actually confer a ui responsiveness benefit on multicore systems?
[−] KnuthIsGod 52d ago
Why does the marketing read like slop ?

"VitruvianOS is an alternative Linux desktop with a singular philosophy: the human at the center."

https://v-os.dev/news/vitruvian-0.3.0-available/

[−] pelasaco 51d ago
systemd based?
[−] create_accounts 51d ago
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