Antimatter has been transported for the first time (nature.com)

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[−] voidUpdate 52d ago
If containment was to fail, it the total energy released would have been approximately 2.766 * 10 ^ -8 J, so it wasn't particularly dangerous
[−] comrade1234 52d ago
What is that in firecrackers?

Gemini says a firecracker releases 150 J, so yeah not a lot.

[−] Anonbrit 52d ago
It's a fraction of the energy released when an unlit fire cracker is dropped an inch. Basically unmeasurable
[−] voidUpdate 52d ago
Wolfram Alpha says its approximately the kinetic energy of a mosquito in flight
[−] schindlabua 52d ago
Which seems suprisingly high given that it's 92 protons worth of antimatter!
[−] dandellion 52d ago
Definitely, I've had a mosquito hit me while flying and you can actually feel it hit your skin.
[−] adonovan 51d ago
The subject of this story is a single proton that you would definitely feel if it hit you: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/OhMyGodParticle/
[−] jona-f 51d ago
I don't think that is the case. The kinetic energy of these super-energetic particles is often compared to a tennis ball. But that energy isn't released at once, so even if it would interact with yourself, that interaction creates a particle shower that takes most of the energy with it. I don't think we can feel one of our atoms getting violently ripped apart.
[−] cobbzilla 51d ago
There’s Anatoli Bugorski [1] who accidentally put his head into the path of a high energy proton beam.

The injury resembled nothing like being hit by tennis balls.

> He reportedly saw a flash "brighter than a thousand suns" but did not feel any pain.

He’s still alive today, age 83.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski

[−] mastermage 50d ago
Oh my god i never read this thats so cool
[−] dostick 51d ago
Which kind of mosquito? European or Asian?
[−] api 52d ago
E=mc^2 and c^2 is a big number.
[−] gopalv 51d ago

> c^2 is a big number.

Famous tweet about conversations with God.

[1] - https://x.com/WraithLaFrentz/status/1981404849305686219

[−] nextaccountic 51d ago
indeed, but note that c^2 is just a factor to convert between units here and is completely arbitrary (or rather, c is so high because our units are human scale)

indeed, in the most natural systems of units in this area, we set c = 1 as to simplify the equations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_units

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometrized_unit_system

[−] nikhilisvalid 52d ago
Wolfram Alpha says it's approximately _one-sixth_ the kinetic energy of a mosquito in flight
[−] steve_adams_86 51d ago
It would be trivial to reroute power from the secondary systems to the forward shields anyway
[−] AnimalMuppet 52d ago
For 92 protons? So 3*10^-10 J per proton?

For a tiny number, that is still insanely high...

[−] dylan604 52d ago
Baby steps on our way to a Dan Brown scene lighting up the night sky
[−] vivid242 52d ago
It was on the radio here (I live on its route)- the ‚receiving’ physicist said it would be way less than what we catch anyway from daily cosmic radiation.
[−] SilentM68 51d ago
Traveling the cosmos by folding space is recommended to avoid these types of issues, because "The Spice Must Flow!"
[−] snthpy 51d ago
First thing that I did was also to do that calc and I was surprised by how little energy it was.
[−] swiftcoder 52d ago
I definitely was expecting "transported" to be some kind of teleportation when I clicked this link. Too much sci-fi!
[−] stevenalowe 51d ago
Unclear on the size of the apparatus require to secure the 92 anti-protons - did it occupy the entire truck?
[−] mikewarot 51d ago
I wonder what would happen if you had a solid piece of antimatter, say a gram of anti-iron... and just set it down. Would it really annihaliate immediately on contact with air, a lab table, or anything... or would the normal forces that keep us from falling through things still be in effect?

Either nothing would happen, or like molten salt in water, the joule currents would be instant and drive it all to go boom in a big way. I wonder which.

[−] brumbelow 52d ago
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[−] amai 49d ago
The comic Yoko Tsuno: The time spiral from 1981 (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Spirale_du_temps) is about a time traveler, who arrives from the future to prevent the creation/invention of antimatter. This is important, because in a future world war an antimatter bomb destroyed the earth.

The fact that no time traveler is mentioned in the article is probably a good sign for our future.

[−] csense 52d ago
From a layman's point of view antimatter seems like an ideal spacecraft fuel. It's as energy dense as E = mc^2 allows, and if you have infrastructure to make it, the only input you need to produce it is electricity.

Being able to transport it seems like an important piece of that puzzle.

Production and storage would need to be scaled by many orders of magnitude, but that's merely an engineering problem...right?

[−] diwank 51d ago
Angels & Demons anyone?
[−] AStrangeMorrow 51d ago
I am curious about how much energy needs to be expanded to contain the anti-matter. Say it the matter/anti-matter is to be used for propulsion/energy generation can we reach a threshold were we are actually energy positive
[−] aftbit 52d ago
How could we make enough antimatter to do something useful? Would we need to go hang out near the sun or deorbit Jupiter's moons with superconducting coils to get enough energy?
[−] Sardtok 52d ago
Sounds like the start of research ending in antimatter bombs.
[−] luc_ 52d ago
Setting the plot for Angels and Demons... :D

Mirror: https://archive.ph/JkeMp

[−] nout 52d ago
I was once transporting antipasti and no one wrote HN post about it :(
[−] eternauta3k 52d ago
What would a universe with equal amounts of matter and antimatter look like?
[−] fatbird 52d ago
Imagine the poor post-doc in the back of the truck, no seatbelt, watching and noting anything going on, while the driver is doing donuts in a parking lot to really stress-test the magnetic containment.
[−] d--b 52d ago
Every time I read one of these, I am amazed by how much stuff superconductivity allows, and how limited we are because it needs ultra low temperatures.
[−] ar_writer 50d ago
This is quite interesting.

Imagine the estate of this in 10 years with all the tech advancements, and all the applications it could have.

[−] alansaber 52d ago
Only 92 antiprotons but still an exciting feat
[−] ck2 51d ago
antimatter is not what the average person thinks it is from science-fiction

https://www.youtube.com/@pbsspacetime/search?query=antimatte...

[−] mrcwinn 51d ago
Yet Papa Johns still forgets the 20 oz soda I had ordered.
[−] dcuthbertson 51d ago
Imagine your own, household matter/antimatter reaction chamber. I can hardly wait for antimatter to be transported through pipes underground along side water mains, natural gas pipes, and sewer connections.
[−] rkagerer 51d ago
How expensive was that shipment?
[−] cozzyd 52d ago
pssh, antineutrinos are transported all the time!
[−] chuckadams 52d ago
Tell me this involved dilithium crystals. Please tell me this involved dilithium, I want to live in Gene's future.
[−] ozim 52d ago
Stop, driver should have license for hauling antimatter and as far as I believe no one is giving those out. That’s major offense in trucking industry.
[−] bitbytebane 52d ago
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