Why so many control rooms were seafoam green (2025) (bethmathews.substack.com)

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[−] jscheel 50d ago
I got through this entire article before I realized it was written by someone I worked with back in my agency days. Beth is an awesome designer with a great eye. Nice to see her on the front page here. Now, to the content: I often wonder how much we have lost with our endless quest for minimalism. We can't even make buttons look like buttons anymore. Affordances have become anemic at times. Designers who think and care deeply about functional color theory and usable design should be cherished.
[−] Rantenki 50d ago
While I am sure there are stylistic reasons for using that color, there is another common reason why you see blue-green colors in paint, especially in older industrial environments: zinc chromate/phosphate corrosion protective coatings. Zinc chromate primer is the color you see on the interior surfaces of some aircraft, to inhibit corrosion. Zinc phosphate is more of a gray in most cases, although varying paint chemistries result in a spectrum between those two, with seafoam nearly smack in the middle.

These are still available today, although the chromate version seems less popular for general use due to toxicity, especially (I assume) in the case of a fire.

I have painted quite a few bits of sheet metal with a sea-foam-ish blue-green/gray paint back in the day (30 years or so ago). I don't recall the manufacturer, but it was a zinc conversion coating in nearly exactly that seafoam color, which has probably stolen at least a few years of my life expectancy. The same company sold other paints in a sickly mustard yellow, and close to fire-engine red, all with slightly different chemistries, I assume for different base metals.

[−] ortusdux 50d ago
Reminds me of Go Away Green - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Away_Green
[−] ryandrake 50d ago
It's so nice to see colors in any kind of government, industrial, or commercial building. The "everything must be gray/beige" fad has dominated institutional interior design for at least 30 years. Maybe it's just nostalgia, I remember the wall colors in banks, schools, doctor's offices, mcdonalds, and so on in the 1970s and they seemed so wonderful. All these things got a coat of white paint sometime in the 2000s and look the same as everywhere else now.
[−] jcalx 50d ago
Reminds me of turquoise cockpits [0], another workspace where visual fatigue considerations are important.

[0] https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/16434/why-are-r...

[−] somat 50d ago
I wonder if the designers of cold war soviet planes read the same color theory because their cockpits are always a very particular indescribable shade of green. There were also very specific colors for subsystems, yellow for fuel, purple for hydraulics etc. Much more than the contemporary US designs.
[−] paradox460 50d ago
Growing up in Los Alamos, it's not just the lab that adhered to this color standard. Everything that had any vague connection to government, be it the post office, hospital, county council building, public access TV station, and schools were all colored in these various colors. And many things that weren't connected directly still used them, likely because they bought paint as surplus. One of a few elevators in town, part of a small shopping center, was sea foam, as were the lamp posts along downtown streets, and finally, the doors in the Posse Shack were also green, but that's likely because they were directly taken from the lab
[−] beedle_mcdeedle 50d ago
I work as an automation technician for my province's electrical utility in Quebec Canada and all the hydro dams in my region still use this color for the control room paneling! I work in and around this color every day and it hasn't gotten old yet. The dams have been around for nearly a century and I've always appreciated their old industrial vibe.
[−] xyzzy123 50d ago
Great discussion on colour theory but I think it skips over the fact that chemistry and economics were also real constraints. Paints that don't fade easily, chemically inert, durable etc and can be produced in enormous volume are not that common. Practical stuff like, how easy does it catch fire, do solvents degrade it. Most important: is it CHEAP?

Also by 1944 there would have been a ready made supply chain due to demand from the navy, which would have picked it for similar reasons and consumed it in enormous volume.

I think, practically, control rooms are chrome oxide green (you get to add as much titanium as you like - thats cheap as dirt too EDIT: it would have been lead actually in the 40s) for much the same reason that barns are red.

[−] rodface 50d ago
Thank you for this share, because it rings close to another fascination of mine: the shade of green/teal that is the panel color of a great many Soviet aircraft cockpits. It's not the same as the shade of these industrial control panels[1], but it seems to me that they are in a family together. I would include the Windows 95 default background color in that same family; I find it relaxing enough that I still use it today. :)

[1]https://www.google.com/images?q=soviet%20aircraft%20cockpits

[−] 6bb32646d83d 50d ago
I was just visiting the cold war era nuclear ICBM control room bunker in Arizona and noticed this color everywhere. Timely article!

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/54f84e69e4b021...

[−] karlgkk 50d ago

> We once went on a tour to spot bald eagles in West Tennessee, and upon arrival, a woman with fluffy hair in the state park bathroom told us she had seen 113 bald eagles the day before. We ended up seeing (counts on one hand)…2.

As a semi professional eagle enjoyer, if the day before was trash day, then she might have been telling the truth. I’m not joking, they have bald eagle proofed dumpsters in Alaska.

They’re basically smart seagulls with talons.

[−] NoSalt 50d ago
I was in the Air Force back in the late '80s, and SO MANY of the old equipment I worked with fit quite nicely into this color scheme. I can almost smell the old electronics now. It also reminds me of the AWESOME aesthetic that is the nixie tube.
[−] Terr_ 50d ago
Seeing all those two-tone walls with green blow and cream above, I bet it isn't coincidental that those tones resemble plants under an overcast outdoor sky.

Either because of unconscious choice, or because some designer theorized that people would be biologically primed to prefer it.

[−] vharuck 50d ago

>In the fall of 1919, Faber Birren entered the Art Institute at the University of Chicago, only to drop out in the spring of 1921 to commit himself to self-education in color, as such a program didn’t exist.

The German word for color is "Farbe," which is an anagram of this guy's name. So I'm chalking one more point up to the universe being a simulation written by a cheeky developer.

[−] dogscatstrees 50d ago
This article is a gem, thank you. Now off to Sherwin-Williams to see what the equivalent color names are. I wonder if there are matching formula.
[−] ydj 50d ago
Funny, when I got tired of trying to find a nice desktop background I just started using a solid color of muted blue or green. I never read about this specific usage of colors before but I bet I saw something somewhere that clued me in on this color.
[−] imglorp 50d ago
What's also interesting is the Russians adopted a similar color for aircraft cockpits, eg this MiG 31. https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/2/75332_1265484412.jpg

Meanwhile the Yanks stayed with mil-spec gray on a similar ship, the F-15: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:F-15_Eagle_Cockpit.jpg

[−] ProllyInfamous 50d ago

    #81D8D0 club, represent!
Tiffany green is a Top10 /hn/topbar color for a reason.
[−] abcde666777 50d ago
Funny - one of those things you don't really wonder about until someone points it out, but which proves pretty interesting once you're aware of it.
[−] bluedino 50d ago
Have always been a fan of colors like that for my desktop background. Maybe because it's calming and I don't realize it?

I'm not sure if it started with the teal from Windows 95's default color (hex codes vary based on Google searches), or if it was a purple-ish color from a classic Mac from school.

To this day, my work Mac is teal and my personal is purple.

[−] mlacks 50d ago
On US submarines, every bulkhead and beam not in the bilge is painted seafoam green. We were told it was the most soothing/ anti-rage inducing color possible - necessary for long deployments in cramped quarters.

After a little over a decade of service, no other color infuriates me more

[−] kleton 50d ago
Because chromium III oxide is a very light-fast pigment
[−] skyberrys 50d ago
It's a color of green reminiscent of Tiffany blue, I mean both colors have the intent of the original color but at the same time there is a well washed feel to them. It's both unnatural and expected for the function of these colors.
[−] next_xibalba 50d ago

> There’s a lot of U.S. history that’s awful and indefensible

Sure. But this is not one those things.

[−] abetusk 49d ago
I'm surprised no one actually listed the hex colors (the one listed by ProllyInfamous isn't seafoam green?).

Wikipedia has it at #9FE2BF [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_green#Sea_foam_green

[−] 6510 50d ago
Between real jobs I once worked at a factory that paid the bare minimum wages, gave zero hour contracts and had the most unstable work hours I've ever seen. People who weren't needed showed up only to be send home, people who weren't planned for the day were suppose to be ready to jump in the entire day only to not be called for 3 weeks. They did shit like send one out of a team of 6 home just to see if 5 people could still do it. They would go out of their way to keep up for example for 2-4 hours but couldn't so someone else was called in for the last two hours.

I asked about the horizontal colored bars painted on the wall in the lunch room. It was the strangest selection of colors. Each bar about a fist width. It seemed someone went out of their way to invent the most boring bland colors possible.

They told me the factory had spend over 100 k on a color expert to increase productivity. Everyone who worked there for some time knew this.

I thought I'd observe the effect. Someone was released from the factory floor for 10 minutes because they by accident worked enough hours in a row to be entitled to a lunch break, in their own time of course.

They sat down at a table carefully positioned to look straight at the color bars. And then it started! I could see on their face their internal dialog as if talking with the hundred thousand euro color consultant. The sandwich went only half way up to their mouth and they slipped into a catatonic state looking at the colors.

It was facinating, I just had to see more. Turned out half the factory had this moment with this colored wall!

I didn't have to ask them what that expression was. I could look at the wall myself and the internal dialog stated immediately: How the fuck do they expect me to pay my bills if I have to wait by the phone all week but only get two 3 hour shifts? Why did they have to spend a hundred thousand on colors to make me more productive?

It was impossible to think anything else. It was almost a blessing to go back to the high speed conveyor belt. If I didn't see it myself I wouldn't believe color theory works in magical ways.

[−] pbohun 50d ago
This makes me think of the color scheme of Plan9. I think they chose that color design for similar reasons.
[−] userbinator 50d ago
To me, it's very evocative of mid-century industrial design. Detroit Diesel painted their engines a similar color too, although theirs is called "Alpine Green". ("Seafoam" brings to mind the engine additive too.)
[−] bensonn 50d ago
It looked like Google Maps to me so I made a comparison. What is old is new again? https://imgur.com/a/b6HCx78
[−] d--b 50d ago
Ha, I am very proud that I made that discovery independently as well. In the Light vs Dark theme, I settled on a light greyish green that is somewhat close to the one described here. It really does reduce eye fatigue.
[−] jnellis 50d ago
The 68 Ford Thunderbird (w/ suicide doors.) Mustangs also came in this color. https://imgur.com/a/BbzHVMn
[−] mprovost 50d ago
It looks like almost the same colour of those David Clark headsets which seem to be ubiquitous in airplane cockpits or helicopters. It's even the background of their corporate logo.
[−] cmoski 50d ago
Old school SCADA screens that I first saw had a similar green background.
[−] bennyp101 50d ago
I remember when I first started out in a job that I should have a green poster nearby to look at to "relax your eyes" every now and then.
[−] ChrisMarshallNY 50d ago
That’s a fascinating story!

I’d never even heard of this guy.

[−] rippeltippel 50d ago
Many primary school classrooms in Italy had walls painted in that same colour, likely for the same reason.
[−] microtherion 50d ago
I wonder whether that was the inspiration for the extensive use of green in the interiors of Severance.
[−] cjohnson318 50d ago
I went to an old engineering school for grad school, all the older buildings had this color scheme.
[−] carabiner 50d ago
Su-27 fighter cockpit is known for its turquoise paneling that supposedly is to promote calm.
[−] anymouse123456 50d ago
Lots of old machinery from the era (Mills, Lathes, and such) also carried these colors.

Truly beautiful.

[−] anonu 50d ago
Some of the old retired US aircraft carriers have their control rooms painted this color.
[−] markdown 50d ago
LOL I just bought a can of Dulux Sea Foam and one of Dulux Sea Foam Quarter yesterday
[−] bloak 50d ago
Also hospitals, though I think it's called "spinach-leaf green" then.