Escaping the Ogallala Trap (worksinprogress.co)

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[−] CalRobert 44d ago
I do worry that autonomous vehicles will result in rules that further hinder walking and cycling because it makes it harder for AV’s to drive unimpeded
[−] y-curious 44d ago
This post makes the assumption that people choose not to drive because it’s annoying or that they can’t multitask (the latter, unfortunately, seems not to be a blocker in the Bay Area).

I don’t see how this would increase demand significantly. Fleets may grow, but I doubt more people will be going on trips because now they don’t need to drive. I can get uber to pay my trip to the office, that doesn’t mean I want to go to the office.

[−] CalRobert 44d ago
If you can sleep during your commute, why not live 2 hours (or more) away?
[−] renewiltord 44d ago
Oh I don’t care about all that.

When the highway I can see out my balcony is gridlocked everything is quiet. When there’s high speed it’s noisy.

When the roads are gridlocked I can bicycle by quite easily. When they’re going by at 45 mph that’s a lot more risky.

When the cars in the line are autonomous they won’t turn into me randomly because they lost their temper. Honestly, you’re making this outcome seem like paradise. Gridlock is a dream.

[−] majormajor 44d ago
How are you getting around personally? Especially if demand shifts further to cars—now with fewer downsides—and further hinders availability and development of public transit, much like the post-WWII original car ownership boom did (and not just in the US!).
[−] ukuina 44d ago
Aren't gridlocks noisy due to honks?
[−] damnitbuilds 46d ago
So making cars public, letting people just summon one at will to bring them where they want to go, cars that rides in coordinated, self-scheduling fleets, cars that pick up other people going the same way etc. etc. will lead to MORE cars on the road ?

Nope, not buying it.