Woman who had sex with identical twins told it is 'not possible' to identify dad (news.sky.com)

by qingcharles 63 comments 19 points
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[−] pseudocoup 46d ago
From reading it appears all parties are invested in the outcome of children. So this becomes interesting for other reasons.

What is the current state of the art in this type of testing? Why is a definitive result too far off but also too expensive?

[−] PaulKeeble 44d ago
Epigenetic changes might be one possibility, they are sometimes passed down to children and are responses to environmental adjustments. We don't know most of the rules around them however nor what can be passed down and to what extent but potentially in the future we should know more.
[−] muskstinks 44d ago
You need to find a genome change if it exists which requires whole genome sequencing. so its a money question and doesn't guarantee a result
[−] giantg2 44d ago
And even if a genome change exists, it may not show up in the offspring depending on which version of gamete they're derived from.
[−] GeekyBear 44d ago
With identical twins, the genome is identical since both twins derive from the same fertilized egg.

I'm not sure how future advancements can overcome that issue.

[−] muskstinks 44d ago
There can be very small mutation which you might be able to find if it happened.
[−] hnbad 44d ago
If I understand correctly, the current outcome is that the twin remains on the birth certificate but his legal rights granted by paternity have been suspended?

I understand the reasoning that the inability to prove a positive does not suffice to prove a negative but clearly his presence on the birth certificate is a positive claim that has been ruled invalid - shouldn't it then be removed, at least temporarily?

[−] bit1993 44d ago
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[−] gadders 44d ago

>>A woman who had sex with identical twins separately "within four days of each other"

Amazing.

[−] muskstinks 44d ago
Why?

And why do we evaluate this on something like hn?

Are you shaming a person for having sex or?

[−] mionhe 44d ago
A person expressing wonder at a surprising situation does not require shaming.

And yes, I think when a person finds themselves in a situation like this they should be examining their life choices.

I don't know why it's on hn though.

[−] muskstinks 44d ago
"they should be examining their life choices." based on your world view though. We became a very boring race only optimizing our lives for work. No alien race would look at us and think we are smart spending so much time doing things which do not add value to our society just because we can't organize ourselves better.

Just because we conditioned ourselves like this, doesn't mean its right or wrong.

And this article doesn't give us enough insight to even judge.

Birth control is not perfect. 99% is very little in comparision to the amount of sex happening in a population of 8 billion people.

[−] asah 44d ago
"Amazing" is not necessarily a judgment, could in fact be congratulations or even judgment-free entirely just amazing story.
[−] ahhhhnoooo 44d ago
Right? Good for her/them, assuming everyone was consenting.
[−] ap99 44d ago
The sex part is a bit shame worthy I'd say.

But the part where this woman cannot identify the father is definitely worth shaming.

[−] nodesocket 44d ago
I mean, 4 days and then she hooks up with your twin brother. Yes, I am shaming her.
[−] ap99 44d ago
Exactly. This whole "no shame" society has gone a bit too far.
[−] rich_sasha 44d ago
When I first read the headline, I thought it's about a woman who had sex with her own identical twin (and somehow that means their father cannot be identified).

So I was almost disappointed when I read it properly.

[−] leni536 44d ago
This feels like purely a legal question. The child is equally related the twins both genetically and seemingly in other relationships.
[−] josefritzishere 44d ago
Flagged? The chat looks pretty innoccuous.
[−] Fire-Dragon-DoL 44d ago
Oh wow, if they break up, who has to pay for the kid then?
[−] nyeah 44d ago
Rage farming with no scientific interest. Sad to see this upvoted to front page.
[−] snvzz 44d ago
Considering outcomes of children that grow up in a single parent scenario are well-known to be much better when it is the father rather than the mother, in the interest of the child, I would propose splitting custody between the two fathers, leaving the mother out.