Microsoft to force updates to Windows 11 25H2 for PCs with older OS versions (tomshardware.com)

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[−] evolve2k 41d ago

> Notably, the rollout will be handled by an “intelligent” update system that leverages machine learning to determine when a device is ready to receive the update.

> Curiously, there seems to be a lack of transparency around how Microsoft’s machine learning system decides when a device is ready to receive the automatic update.

The open secret is that the LLM has been prompted to make the call and no human in Microsoft is able to interrogate why the agentic AI is pushing updates to some machines and not to others.

[−] throwawaytea 41d ago
After all the stupid drama in the last few years, we loaded Linux Mint Mate on all my parents computers. My mom can't really tell the difference and my dad likes it.

If Microsoft is losing 65 year olds, they've got a problem.

[−] wingmanjd 41d ago
Microsoft lost my 80yr old aunt and my two under teenager kids. My last hold-out at home is my son's laptop, which he needed Windows for a proctered exam (now completed). He's excited to soon be on the same OS as his other family members.
[−] convexly 41d ago
The move to Linux is looking more and more appealing. These decisions are killing Microsoft by a thousand cuts.
[−] LorenDB 41d ago
Microsoft is driving more and more people away to Linux or macOS (as evidenced by other comments here). I thought they had recently announced that they would be trying to rebuild trust in their users, but evidently the Windows Update team didn't get the memo.
[−] Sytten 41d ago
Jokes on them I am still running Windows 10 and not planning to move my gaming PC to Windows 11 (hardware not supported).
[−] rr808 41d ago
I'm still on 23H2, windows update fails every time I try. This summer I'm switching to Linux.
[−] KennyBlanken 41d ago
This insanely clickbait title implies Win10 systems will be upgraded. That is not true whatsoever.

Many subreddits ban sites for having clickbaity nonsense and it's high time HN did the same.

[−] lousken 41d ago
Well I also force upgraded, to Linux
[−] vjvjvjvjghv 41d ago
It will probably be handled by Windows Upgrade Copilot.
[−] jasomill 41d ago
Other than taking longer to install, this doesn't sound materially worse than forcing any other Windows update on the same set of users (those whose update settings aren't controlled by Group Policy, presumably).

In particular, this change doesn't apply to Windows 10.

Do nontechnical users intentionally run older, unsupported builds of Windows 11 in the first place, and if so, why?

[−] estimator7292 41d ago
Microsoft is employing a machine learning algorithm to decide when a particular device should receive a forced update.

What? How could that possibly be beneficial for anyone?

[−] Dwedit 41d ago
It seems like WUB (windows update blocker) will still prevent an update?
[−] sensanaty 40d ago

> Notably, the rollout will be handled by an “intelligent” update system that leverages machine learning to determine when a device is ready to receive the update.

Has everyone at M$ lost the plot? We need AI to know whether a version number is smaller than another version number now? What the fuck does this even mean?

[−] arprocter 41d ago
I'm far from a MS apologist, but this is upgrading a soon-to-be-unsupported version of Windows 11 to the current version
[−] burnt-resistor 41d ago
Because it's all about controlling the real products, the users, with force. Technofeudal overlords DGAF.
[−] Hizonner 40d ago
1. Don't run Windows. That's just showing your abuse fetish.

2. Keep your fucking OS up to date. At this point, there is no excuse for exposing unmaintained, unupdated code to the Internet.