Anthropic is burning more and more dev goodwill (twitter.com)

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[−] WaryByDesign 39d ago
I have truly no idea what this is all about. OAuth login issues aside (which have been a thing on-and-off for a while now, and I hope they fix soon), Claude's performance and responses have been entirely stable for me for like, forever.
[−] politelemon 39d ago
Different people have completely different experiences as they perform different tasks, that shouldn't be difficult to understand. It's a bit like the purported degradation of quality of Google search. It is still excellent for me but I don't doubt that others are experiencing it.
[−] halJordan 39d ago
If different people are allowed to have different experiences why are you only getting one set of experiences be controlling?
[−] schmookeeg 39d ago
Same for me. I have been max200 for like 10 months, i think my usage is reasonable, and i never seem to get the quality throttling that gets complaints daily. I assume they are targeting certain piggies at the Claude buffet, who then squeal the loudest.
[−] Ferret7446 39d ago
As far as I can tell, the people affected are primarily those using their Claude code tokens for openclaw or similar and burning as many tokens as possible
[−] ikidd 39d ago
[−] simplify 39d ago
Same here, maybe we're grandfathered into a good plan or something.
[−] infecto 39d ago
Is Claude code really refusing to do none coding tasks because thats not my experience even as of today and I would have expected those tokens are being accounted for the same way as a Claude.ai chat.

Seems like all of this is gripes over blocking openclaw which I just cannot take seriously.

[−] AlotOfReading 39d ago
Earlier today I had an agent refuse to integrate a proprietary library until I reassured it there was a signed license agreement with the authors. Otherwise it threatened to "escalate this session to the legal department".

First time I've seen prompt injection by header copyright warnings.

[−] quietsegfault 39d ago
Earlier today I had Claude manage a TV show downloading system, and then it hacked a NES rom for me, setting up a web site so my kid could just go to a page to play it. So, I guess it’s not uniform.
[−] infecto 38d ago
I don’t think alignment hiccups are the same as it refusing to do non-coding tasks. Both are refusals but different reasoning. I have yet to see Claude code complain about noncoding tasks and I am willing to bet the majority of complaints here are because of openclaw.
[−] alsetmusic 39d ago
Who wants to follow a link to an untagged [video]? Please tag video submissions so that those of us who don’t care for them can save a click / tap.
[−] drakythe 39d ago
tl;dr: Dude thinks Anthropic is making claude worse on purpose to cut down on GPU usage and/or increase income. He recommends using Codex instead. This video should have been a text tweet.

I'm 3 minutes in and he has done an ad read and shown that Anthropic wasn't kidding about removing the ability for Claude to be used with OpenClaw without paying for additional usage.

And now he says he's going into his _actual_ problem with the service.

EDIT: I have fast forwarded to 8 minutes in an he is still going on about Open Claw. Apparently they have banned mention of open claw in the system prompts. And it can trigger your extra charges even if you're not _using_ Open Claw, just mentioning it.

EDIT 2: forwarded again. He went into something about his app and how he is concerned about whether his app will be allowed to continue doing this and that he would take Anthropic to court if that suddenly changed? But then he talks about how he likes using Claude for debugging misc issues outside of this app. Why did he bring the app up? And he is upset that Claude is telling him that it can't help him with random tech support questions like "Why is my dropbox icon not showing up in the MacOS menu?"

We're now 16:45 in and this is his personal _conspiracy theory_ about Anthropic doing this stuff specifically so it doesn't work for Open Claw.

This is a 24 minute rant that the tool he didn't understand before is now telling him he doesn't understand the tool and he should look elsewhere for specific answers.

But Codex did what he wanted. So okay. "All without opening a browser" -- I... have so many responses that are unkind. This isn't Anthropic burning dev good will. This is Anthropic being a capitalist company.

[−] taiwks 39d ago
It's a Theo post, I see him and go oh I don't care / need his opinion on anything.
[−] xingped 39d ago
I am actually glad that YouTube now has Gemini integrated with a little popout section that I can just ask to summarize the video. Half the videos I pass by these days I prefer just a quick summarize and 30s read-through over a half-hour long video comprised of 90% useless fluff. Milk the ad revenue, I guess, but most of these videos could have been a tweet for all the content they actually contain.
[−] gherkinnn 38d ago
This Theo can be safely ignored. He built his audience shilling for Next.js in hour long roundabout videos and now seemingly moved on to doing the same for whatever else is happening. A tech influencer.
[−] pixl97 39d ago

>And it can trigger your extra charges even if you're not _using_ Open Claw, just mentioning it.

Eh, I can only imagine this could get them in legal trouble in places that have actual consumer protections.

[−] sunaookami 39d ago
oh this theo guy again who is constantly complaining about some obscure "issue" he has, writes conspiracy theories about them, blasts anyone who critizies him all while making excuses for OpenAI (in which he - surprise! - is an investor in). And of course he has replies disabled ;) Typical modern "techfluencer".
[−] tim-tday 39d ago
Support your argument with specific evidence or GTFO
[−] ece 39d ago
In all honesty you'd have to be living under a fucking rock the last 10 years to think these APIs wouldn't be locked down to make more money for their owners. Who is surprised? Not me running models on my spark cluster.
[−] amelius 39d ago
Can't they just throttle Claw usage if they are so worried that it may use up all their resources?
[−] AlexErrant 39d ago
tldr:

* Banning OpenClaw via system prompt filtering

* Unclear TOS, citing Matt Pocock who sells a course on Claude (and therefore his interests are aligned with Anthropic):

> I have never before experienced, from any developer tool, such a frustrating lack of clarity over the basic terms of usage. I personally asked, 3 weeks ago, and have received nothing but delays. The recent @bcherny announcement did absolutely nothing to clarify things.

More details: https://xcancel.com/mattpocockuk/status/2040536403289764275

* And finally refusing to help a user debug issues with Dropbox, repeatedly saying "I'm best suited for software engineering" and "this is a question for Dropbox support" (paraphrasing Claude).

[−] nikolay 39d ago
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[−] nemomarx 39d ago
was it? I thought they had already dropped Anthropic by that point?
[−] jsbisviewtiful 39d ago
I forget the timeline of events but the school bombing was within a very short timeframe of the announcement - a short enough timeframe that no rip and replace could have happened yet.
[−] nikolay 39d ago
I guess you've not been keeping up with the news. It's been used for at least 1,000 strikes in Iran.
[−] megous 39d ago
preparation for the initial strike has to have been going on for months
[−] rdevilla 39d ago
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[−] on_the_train 39d ago
Because it's a clickbait title
[−] rdevilla 39d ago
Understood. I will now aggressively flag so called "clickbait" on HN.