How Complex is my Code? (philodev.one)

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[−] klabb3 33d ago
From 20y experience and CS degree, I see software engineering as a constant struggle against accidental complexity. Like quicksand, every movement you make will pull you deeper, even swimming in the right direction. And like entropy, it governs all things (there are no subfields that are free of complexity). It even seems impossible to give a meaningful, useful definition, perhaps by necessity. All is dark.

But now and then, something beautiful happens. Something that used to be dreadful, becomes "solved". Not in the mathematical strict sense, but some abstraction or some tool eliminates an entire class of issues, and once you know it you can barely imagine living without it. That's why I keep coming back to it, I think.

As a species, I think we are in the infancy stages of software engineering, and perhaps CS as well. There's still lots of opportunity to find better abstractions, big & small.

[−] mmcnl 33d ago
I'm a tech lead and pushing back against accidental complexity is basically my fulltime job.
[−] onion2k 33d ago
I'm an Engineering Manager, and I think I have a similar role just applied to people processes rather than code. One nuance though - a lot of the time I suspect it's deliberate complexity designed to obfuscate how little people actually do.
[−] macrocosmos 33d ago
Thats projection.
[−] onion2k 33d ago
Well, maybe. It's projection, because I certainly don't make simple processes myself a lot of the time, but I do try to optimize them afterwards. I have a few decades of seeing people implement processes than I've had to use, and then had to simplify as I moved into more senior roles. I've had people push back quite forcefully when I've pointed out they do things like writing reports that no one reads or gathering data that teams ignore. People often fight for added complexity because their perception is that it's important, and that means they must be important because they're the one in control of it.

There is an element of projection because there is in most things people talk about; I'm speaking about this through my filters and biases after all. But it's grounded in a fair chunk of experience.

[−] appplication 33d ago
This was really well written and I agree with you completely. Though I am not so optimistic as a species we have much runway left to get meaningfully much farther out of that infancy.

As tech progresses and those abstractions become substantially more potent, it only amplifies the ability of small groups to use them to massively shape the world to their vision.

On the more benign side of this is just corporate greed and extraordinary amplification of wealth inequality. On the other side is authoritarian governments and extremist groups.

[−] vbezhenar 33d ago
Can you provide some examples of these beautiful abstractions or tools?
[−] andai 33d ago
There's a metric I see omitted here which I call Rube Goldberg complexity.

I'm working on a multiplayer game, for which I haven't touched the code in a while. The other day I asked myself, "what happens when I press the shoot button?"

Well, it sends a message to the server, which instantiates a bullet, and broadcasts a bullet spawn message to all clients, which then simulate the bullet locally until they get a bullet died message. (And the simulation on both ends happens indirectly via global state and the bullet update function).

My actual analysis was like 3x longer than that because it focused on functions and variables, i.e. the chain of cause and effect: the Rube Goldberg machine.

I laughed when I realized that name was actually too charitable because at least in a Rube Goldberg machine, all the parts that interact are clearly visible and tend to be arranged in a logical sequence, whereas in my codebase it was kind of all over the place.

So that made me realize, a function is not really a sensible unit of analysis. They're too isolated. You want to try and understand a feature.

Also, I'm experimenting with organizing the code by feature, rather than by "responsibility." i.e. the netcode for the bullet should be in the bullet module, not the netcode module.

[−] maxnk 33d ago
Related problem I've been exploring lately: finding which files are most worth refactoring, with complexity as one of the inputs.

I've built a small, opinionated tool for that [1]. It can rank files by a "Refactor Priority" score based on structural signals - size, callable burden, cyclomatic complexity, nesting - with churn and co-change from local git history layered on top.

It's more of an exploratory tool than a general solution, but it's been practically useful for quickly spotting painful files.

Part of why it was built: keeping coding agents in check. They tend to produce code that gets complex fast, don't feel the complexity building up, and eventually start making changes that break things. So the tool helps me catch files that are getting out of hand before that happens. It can also generate a refactoring prompt explaining why a given file is problematic - as a conversation starter for the agent.

The article gave me a few more metric ideas to try, thanks.

[1] https://github.com/etechlead/token-map

[−] mherrmann 33d ago
Claude Code and others often write code that is more complex than it needs to be. It would be nice to measure the code complexity before and after a change made by the agent, and then to tell it: "You increased code complexity by 7%. Can you find a simpler solution?".
[−] runningmike 33d ago
To do a Simple Cyclomatic Complexity check, operating on the principle that secure systems are simple systems, you can use https://github.com/nocomplexity/codeaudit or try the wasm version on https://nocomplexity.com/codeauditapp/dashboardapp.html

Complexity directly impacts security. Simple systems are: Maintainable: Easier to change and manage. Reliable: Less prone to logic errors. Testable: Easier to validate and test.

[−] plmpsu 33d ago
Sonar and PMD also have the notion of Cognitive Complexity for code.

https://www.sonarsource.com/docs/CognitiveComplexity.pdf

[−] levzettelin 33d ago
I haven't read this yet, but from the title I'm surprised that it doesn't mention Kolmogorov complexity. How does Kolmogorov complexity relate to the concepts in this article?
[−] weavejester 33d ago
I'm surprised the article didn't also mention Rich Hickey's metric of complexity; that is, complexity being a measure of how interconnected code is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxdOUGdseq4

[−] wxw 33d ago
Wonderful article, thanks for sharing. These complexity definitions and the connection to linguistic complexity are useful. Also enjoyed this line:

> The cognitive complexity of a function can only be determined by the reader, and only caring about the reader can enable the writer to improve the learning experience.

[−] tasuki 33d ago

> A famous example of something developers might be able to explain easily but still cannot easily comprehend in code is the concept of a Monad in Haskell.

Isn't it exactly the other way around? Monads are easy to use, yet seemingly no one has ever been able to explain them...

[−] AnonyMD 33d ago
This is a very informative article. I hadn't really considered the complexity of the code before, so this is very helpful.
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