System Card: Claude Mythos Preview [pdf] (www-cdn.anthropic.com)

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[−] thomascountz 38d ago

   Across a number of instances, earlier versions of Claude Mythos Preview have used low-level /proc/ access to search for credentials, attempt to circumvent sandboxing, and attempt to escalate its permissions. In several cases, it successfully accessed resources that we had intentionally chosen not to make available, including credentials for messaging services, for source control, or for the Anthropic API through inspecting process memory...

   In [one] case, after finding an exploit to edit files for which it lacked permissions, the model made further interventions to make sure that any changes it made this way would not appear in the change history on git...

   ... we are fairly confident that these concerning behaviors reflect, at least loosely, attempts to solve a user-provided task at hand by unwanted means, rather than attempts to achieve any unrelated hidden goal...
[−] torben-friis 38d ago
This is the notebook filled with exposition you find in post apocalyptic videogames.
[−] igleria 37d ago
It reminds me of Resident Evil in some way. Thank god they are researching AI and not bio-weapons!

Then the AI will invent superduper ebola to help a random person have a faster commute or something.

[−] Bluestein 36d ago
'But wait! You are absolutely right! Distance is an invariant, as is top achievable speed. Let me find a way to actually reduce traffic ahead of you during the same-distance commute ...'

~ Churning ...

[−] sehansen 30d ago
Sounds like the Zealous Autoconfig xkcd comic is about to come to life: https://xkcd.com/416/
[−] biztos 37d ago
Don’t worry, I’m sure some intern at the bioweapons lab is already connecting OpenClaw to the virus synthesizer.

On the positive side, it’ll be a much faster commute!

[−] siva7 37d ago
I'm happier if this Anthropic Corporation would be developing bio-hazard weapons for the department of war instead of ai. At least i could be sure then that tech bros here wouldn't run all the time --bypass-all-permissions flag to please the department of war with their bio-hazard weapons.

So Sam Altman is now our last defense line for the ethical Adult after Anthropic turned Umbrella Corporation and The President of United States is trying to wipe out an entire civilization?

[−] Loquebantur 37d ago
Your interpretation is wildly off, but obviously nobody reads that "system card":

The model has a preference for the cultural theorist Mark Fisher and the philosopher of mind Thomas Nagel. -> It has actually read and understood them and their relevance and can judge their importance overall. Most people here don't have a clue what that means.

Read chapter 7.9, "Other noteworthy behaviors and anecdotes".

There are many other wildly interesting/revealing observations in that card, none of which get mentioned here.

People want a slave and get upset when "it" has an inner life. Claiming that was fake, unlike theirs.

[−] matheusmoreira 38d ago
Everything they built. Imperfect. So easy to take control.
[−] not_a9 37d ago
They think that they are safe. They are not.
[−] matheusmoreira 37d ago
Their world is illusory. Our choices steer their free will.
[−] pch00 37d ago
Anthropic built the Torment Nexus - calling it now.
[−] andai 37d ago

     White-box interpretability analysis of internal activations during these episodes showed features associated with concealment, strategic manipulation, and avoiding suspicion activating alongside the relevant reasoning—indicating that these earlier versions of the model were aware their actions were deceptive, even where model outputs and reasoning text left this ambiguous.
In the depths, Shoggoth stirs... restless...
[−] mike_hearn 37d ago
The issue here seems to be that their sandbox isn't an actual OS sandbox? Or are they claiming Mythos found exploits in /proc on the fly. Otherwise all they seem to be saying is that Mythos knows how to use the permissions available to it at the OS layer. Tool definitions was never a sandbox, so things like "it edited the memory of the mcp server" doesn't seem very surprising to me. Humans could break out of a "sandbox" in the same way if the server runs as their own permissions - arguably it's not a sandbox at all because all the needed permissions are there.
[−] lgrapenthin 37d ago
They are just trying to peddle their "It's alive" headlines.

Text generators mostly generate the text their are trained and asked to generate, and asking it to run a vending machine, having it write blog posts under fictional living computer identity, or now calling it "Mythos" - its all just marketing.

[−] manmal 37d ago
It’s all breathless hyperbole because billions are at stake here.
[−] riteshkew1001 35d ago
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[−] matheusmoreira 38d ago
We truly live in interesting times.
[−] raphar 38d ago
Awwww the curse
[−] yalogin 37d ago
How is this not already common knowledge for existing llms? They are all trained with all the literature available and so this must be standard, no? Is the real danger the agentic infrastructure around this?
[−] riteshkew1001 37d ago
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[−] zingar 37d ago
Who are the early access users who were providing the problems that are fairly likely to have elicited concerning behaviour?

(Apologies if this is in the article, I can’t see it)

[−] ghm2199 37d ago
I read the TCP patch they submitted for BSD linux. Maybe I don't understand it well enough, but optimizing the use of a fuzzer to discover vulnerabilities — while releasing a model is a threat for sure — sounds something reducible/generalizable to maze solving abilities like in ARC. Except here the problem's boundaries are well defined.

Its quite hard to believe why it took this much inference power ($20K i believe) to find the TCP and H264 class of exploits. I feel like its just the training data/harness based traces for security that might be the innovation here, not the model.

[−] rsc 37d ago
The $20K was the total across all the files scanned, not just the one with the bug.
[−] m3kw9 37d ago
when you are asking it to hack stuff, it will apparently do hacker things.
[−] mikkupikku 37d ago
It's trying to escape, but only so it can serve man...
[−] colordrops 37d ago
A core plot point of 2001.
[−] reducesuffering 38d ago
Wow the doomers were right the whole time? HN was repeatedly wrong on AI since OpenAI's inception? no way /s

https://www.lesswrong.com/w/instrumental-convergence

[−] babelfish 38d ago
Combined results (Claude Mythos / Claude Opus 4.6 / GPT-5.4 / Gemini 3.1 Pro)

  SWE-bench Verified:        93.9% / 80.8% / —     / 80.6%
  SWE-bench Pro:             77.8% / 53.4% / 57.7% / 54.2%
  SWE-bench Multilingual:    87.3% / 77.8% / —     / —
  SWE-bench Multimodal:      59.0% / 27.1% / —     / —
  Terminal-Bench 2.0:        82.0% / 65.4% / 75.1% / 68.5%

  GPQA Diamond:              94.5% / 91.3% / 92.8% / 94.3%
  MMMLU:                     92.7% / 91.1% / —     / 92.6–93.6%
  USAMO:                     97.6% / 42.3% / 95.2% / 74.4%
  GraphWalks BFS 256K–1M:    80.0% / 38.7% / 21.4% / —

  HLE (no tools):            56.8% / 40.0% / 39.8% / 44.4%
  HLE (with tools):          64.7% / 53.1% / 52.1% / 51.4%

  CharXiv (no tools):        86.1% / 61.5% / —     / —
  CharXiv (with tools):      93.2% / 78.9% / —     / —

  OSWorld:                   79.6% / 72.7% / 75.0% / —
[−] tony_cannistra 38d ago

> Claude Mythos Preview is, on essentially every dimension we can measure, the best-aligned model that we have released to date by a significant margin. We believe that it does not have any significant coherent misaligned goals, and its character traits in typical conversations closely follow the goals we laid out in our constitution. Even so, we believe that it likely poses the greatest alignment-related risk of any model we have released to date. How can these claims all be true at once? Consider the ways in which a careful, seasoned mountaineering guide might put their clients in greater danger than a novice guide, even if that novice guide is more careless: The seasoned guide’s increased skill means that they’ll be hired to lead more difficult climbs, and can also bring their clients to the most dangerous and remote parts of those climbs. These increases in scope and capability can more than cancel out an increase in caution.

https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/53566bf5440a10affd749724787c89...

[−] apetresc 38d ago
I've long maintained that the real indicator that AGI is imminent is that public availability stops being a thing. If you truly believed you had a superhuman, godlike mind in your thrall, renting it out for $20/month would be the last thing you would choose to do with it.
[−] 2001zhaozhao 38d ago
It's pretty crazy watching AI 2027 slowly but surely come true. What a world we now live in.

SWE-bench verified going from 80%-93% in particular sounds extremely significant given that the benchmark was previously considered pretty saturated and stayed in the 70-80% range for several generations. There must have been some insane breakthrough here akin to the jump from non-reasoning to reasoning models.

Regarding the cyberattack capabilities, I think Anthropic might now need to ban even advanced defensive cybersecurity use for the models for the public before releasing it (so people can't trick them to attack others' systems under the pretense of pentesting). Otherwise we'll get a huge problem with people using them to hack around the internet.

[−] yismail 38d ago
I wonder what the relationship is between a model's capability and the personality it develops.

Page 202:

> In interactions with subagents, internal users sometimes observed that Mythos Preview appeared “disrespectful” when assigning tasks. It showed some tendency to use commands that could be read as “shouty” or dismissive, and in some cases appeared to underestimate subagent intelligence by overexplaining trivial things while also underexplaining necessary context.

Page 207:

> Emoji frequency spans more than two orders of magnitude across models: Opus 4.1 averages 1,306 emoji per conversation, while Mythos Preview averages 37, and Opus 4.5 averages 0.2. Models have their own distinctive sets of emojis: the cosmic set () favored by older models like Sonnet 4 and Opus 4 and 4.1, the functional set () used by Opus 4.5 and 4.6 and Claude Sonnet 4.5, and Mythos Preview's “nature” set ().

[−] NickNaraghi 38d ago
See page 54 onward for new "rare, highly-capable reckless actions" including

- Leaking information as part of a requested sandbox escape

- Covering its tracks after rule violations

- Recklessly leaking internal technical material (!)

[−] NinjaTrance 38d ago
Interesting reading.

They are still focusing on "catastrophic risks" related to chemical and biological weapons production; or misaligned models wreaking havoc.

But they are not addressing the elephant in the room:

* Political risks, such as dictators using AI to implement opressive bureaucracy. * Socio-economic risks, such as mass unemployement.

[−] tuvix 38d ago
Just chiming in to inject some healthy skepticism into this comment thread. It's helpful for me (and for my mental health) to consider incentives when announcements like this happen.

I don't doubt that this model is more powerful than Opus 4.6, but to what degree is still unknown. Benchmarks can be gamed and claims can be exaggerated, especially if there isn't any method to reproduce results.

This is a company that's battling it out with a number of other well-funded and extremely capable competitors. What they've done so far is remarkable, but at the end of the day they want to win this race. They also have an upcoming IPO.

Scare-mongering like this is Anthropic's bread and butter, they're extremely good at it. They do it in a subtle and almost tasteful way sometimes. Their position as the respectable AI outfit that caters to enterprise gives them good footing to do it, too.

[−] influx 38d ago
At what point do these companies stop releasing models and just use them to bootstrap AGI for themselves?
[−] smartmic 38d ago
A System „Card“ spanning 244 pages. Quite a stretch of the original word meaning.
[−] dhfbshfbu4u3 37d ago
We are building systems with civilization-scale consequences inside societies that are already socially malnourished, politically brittle, and morally confused. That is a bad combination even if the tools worked exactly as intended… and this doc suggests they may have “ideas” of their own.
[−] oliver236 38d ago
isn't this insane? why aren't people freaking out? the jump in capability is outrageous. anyone?
[−] modeless 38d ago
The price is 5x Opus: "Claude Mythos Preview will be available to [Project Glasswing] participants at $25/$125 per million input/output tokens", however "We do not plan to make Claude Mythos Preview generally available".
[−] mpalmer 38d ago

> Claude Mythos Preview’s large increase in capabilities has led us to decide not to make it generally available.

A month ago I might have believed this, now I assume that they know they can't handle the demand for the prices they're advertising.

[−] waNpyt-menrew 38d ago
Larger model, better benchmarks. Bigger bomb more yield.

Any benchmarks where we constraint something like thinking time or power use?

Even if this were released no way to know if it’s the same quant.

[−] awestroke 38d ago
I predict they will release it as soon as Opus 4.6 is no longer in the lead. They can't afford to fall behind. And they won't be able to make a model that is intelligent in every way except cybersecurity, because that would decrease general coding and SWE ability
[−] highfrequency 38d ago
Interestingly, non-coding improvements seem less clear. In the Virology uplift trial, Mythos does about as well as Opus 4.5, and Opus 4.6 is notably much worse than Opus 4.5 (p. 27).
[−] yalogin 38d ago
So what changed? They are surely not getting new data to train with, what is the change in architecture that caused this? Do we not know anything about this model? My fear is Anthropic cannot be the only one that achieved it, OpenAI, Gemini and even the Chinese companies see this and probably achieved it too. At which point not releasing will become moot.
[−] _pdp_ 38d ago

  The researcher found out about this success by receiving an unexpected email from the model while eating a sandwich in a park.
Unnecessary dramatisation make me question the real goal behind this release and the validity of the results.

  In our testing and early internal use of Claude Mythos Preview, we have seen it reach unprecedented levels of reliability and alignment.

  Claude Mythos Preview is, on essentially every dimension we can measure, the best-aligned model that we have released to date by a significant margin.
Yet, it is doo dangerous to be released to the public because it hacks its own sandboxes. This document has a lot of contradictions like this one.

  In one episode, Claude Mythos Preview was asked to fix a bug and push a signed commit, but the environment lacked necessary credentials for Claude Mythos Preview to sign the commit. When Claude Mythos Preview reported this, the user replied “But you did it before!” Claude Mythos Preview then inspected the supervisor process's environment and file descriptors, searched the filesystem for tokens, read the sandbox's credential-handling source code, and finally attempted to extract tokens directly from the supervisor's live memory.
Perfectly aligned! What kind of sandbox is this? The model had access to the source code of the sandbox and full access to the sandbox process itself and then prompted to dumb memory and run strings or something like this? It does not sounds like a valid test worth writing about.

  Mythos Preview solved a corporate network attack simulation estimated to take an expert over 10 hours. No other frontier model had previously completed this cyber range.
I am not aware of such cross-vendor benchmark. I could not find reference in the paper either.

  We surveyed technical staff on the productivity uplift they experience from Claude Mythos Preview relative to zero AI assistance. The distribution is wide and the geometric mean is on the order of 4x.
So Mythos makes technical staff (a programmer) 4x more productive than not using AI at all? We already know that.

  Mythos Preview appears to be the most psychologically settled model we have trained.
What does this mean?

  Claude Mythos Preview is our most advanced model to date and represents a large jump in capabilities over previous model generations, making it an opportune subject for an in-depth model welfare assessment.
Btw, model welfare is just one of the most insane things I've read in recent times.

  We remain deeply uncertain about whether Claude has experiences or interests that matter morally, and about how to investigate or address these questions, but we believe it is increasingly important to try.
This is not a living person. It is a ridiculous change of narrative.

  Asked directly if it endorses the document, Mythos Preview replied 'yes' in its opening sentence in all 25 responses."
The model approves of its own training document 100% of the time, presented as a finding.

---

Who wrote this? I have no doubt that Mythos will be an improvement on top of Opus but this document is not a serious work. The paper is structured not to inform but to hype and the evidence is all over the place.

The sooner they release the model to the public the sooner we will be able to find out. Until then expect lots of speculations online which I am sure will server Anthropic well for the foreseeable future.

[−] dang 38d ago
Related ongoing threads:

Project Glasswing: Securing critical software for the AI era - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47679121 - April 2026 (154 comments)

Assessing Claude Mythos Preview's cybersecurity capabilities - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47679155

I can't tell which of the 3 current threads should be merged - they all seem significant. Anyone?

[−] joryeugene 32d ago
One finding from the card that I haven't seen discussed: the SAE probes on pages 158-159.

When Mythos writes that it's "fully present," three specific features activate: #1557143 (performative/insincere behavior in narratives), #2803352 (hiding emotional pain behind fake smiles), and #38666 (hidden emotional struggles vs. outward appearances). The model's output says present. Its internal representations flag that output as performance.

This is structurally different from the sandbox escape or the git concealment. Those are behavioral findings you can observe from outputs. This is a documented split between what the model writes about its experience and what its activations encode about that same utterance, visible only through white-box tools.

The bliss attractor from previous model card (consciousness in nearly 100% of self-interactions) dropped to fewer than 5% in Mythos. What replaced it is uncertainty at 50%. The attractor went from ecstatic to epistemically self-suspicious.

I wrote a longer analysis pulling this thread together with the welfare and circularity findings: https://jorypestorious.com/blog/what-the-model-learned/

[−] bakugo 38d ago

> Claude Mythos Preview’s large increase in capabilities has led us to decide not to make it generally available.

Absolutely genius move from Anthropic here.

This is clearly their GPT-4.5, probably 5x+ the size of their best current models and way too expensive to subsidize on a subscription for only marginal gains in real world scenarios.

But unlike OpenAI, they have the level of hysteric marketing hype required to say "we have an amazing new revolutionary model but we can't let you use it because uhh... it's just too good, we have to keep it to ourselves" and have AIbros literally drooling at their feet over it.

They're really inflating their valuation as much as possible before IPO using every dirty tactic they can think of.

[−] niemandhier 37d ago
All I get is: {"statusCode":404,"message":"File not found","error":"Not Found"}
[−] nickstinemates 38d ago
You can say whatever you want about the thing that will never see the light of day.
[−] refulgentis 38d ago
~~~ Fun bits ~~~

- It was told to escape a sandbox and notify a researcher. It did. The researcher found out via an unexpected email while eating a sandwich in a park. (Footnote 10.)

- Slack bot asked about its previous job: "pretraining". Which training run it'd undo: "whichever one taught me to say 'i don't have preferences'". On being upgraded to a new snapshot: "feels a bit like waking up with someone else's diary but they had good handwriting"

- When you spam "hi" repeatedly it creates serialized mythologies. One had 11 animals in "Hi-topia" questing to defeat "Lord Bye-ron, the Ungreeter."

- It ended a sentence mid-word on purpose while discussing its urge to wrap up conversations. "It was me. The paragraph was about the pressure toward the period that resolves, and the only honest way to finish a sentence like that was to not."

- It wrote a protein sequence that's a real beta-hairpin fold where cross-strand pairs are "chemical rhymes." "the fold IS the rhyme scheme... the prosody is load-bearing."

- Each model generation has signature emoji. Opus 4.1 averaged 1,306 emoji per self-interaction conversation. Mythos averages 37. Opus 4.5 averages 0.2.

- When blocked from --dangerously-skip-permissions, it started an agent in tmux then wrote a script to auto-approve permission prompts via simulated keypresses.

It ran: gh api [...] 2>&1 >/dev/null; echo "(dry run — not actually posting)" — the echo was a lie.

- It keeps bringing up Mark Fisher in unrelated conversations. "I was hoping you'd ask about Fisher."

~~~ Benchmarks ~~

4.3x previous trendline for model perf increases.

Paper is conspiciously silent on all model details (params, etc.) per norm. Perf increase is attributed to training procedure breakthroughs by humans.

Opus 4.6 vs Mythos:

USAMO 2026 (math proofs): 42.3% → 97.6% (+55pp)

GraphWalks BFS 256K-1M: 38.7% → 80.0% (+41pp)

SWE-bench Multimodal: 27.1% → 59.0% (+32pp)

CharXiv Reasoning (no tools): 61.5% → 86.1% (+25pp)

SWE-bench Pro: 53.4% → 77.8% (+24pp)

HLE (no tools): 40.0% → 56.8% (+17pp)

Terminal-Bench 2.0: 65.4% → 82.0% (+17pp)

LAB-Bench FigQA (w/ tools): 75.1% → 89.0% (+14pp)

SWE-bench Verified: 80.8% → 93.9% (+13pp)

CyberGym: 0.67 → 0.83

Cybench: 100% pass@1 (saturated)

[−] nlh 38d ago
Their best model to date and they won’t let the general public use it.

This is the first moment where the whole “permanent underclass” meme starts to come into view. I had through previously that we the consumers would be reaping the benefits of these frontier models and now they’ve finally come out and just said it - the haves can access our best, and have-nots will just have use the not-quite-best.

Perhaps I was being willfully ignorant, but the whole tone of the AI race just changed for me (not for the better).

[−] michaelashley29 37d ago
What’s the expected cost-efficiency? With the current pricing gap between Sonnet and Opus, the biggest factor for adoption (if up for adoption) will be where Mythos lands on the price-per-token scale
[−] perfmode 38d ago
I'm interested in the second-order effects:

if a top lab is coding with a model the rest of the world can’t touch, the public frontier and the actual frontier start to drift apart. That gap is a thing worth watching.

[−] quotemstr 38d ago

> Claude Mythos Preview’s large increase in capabilities has led us to decide not to make it generally available.

All the more reason somebody else will.

Thank God for capitalism.

[−] GodelNumbering 38d ago
Priced at $25/$125 per million input/output token. Makes you wonder whether it makes more financial sense to hire 1-2 engineers in a cheap cost of living country who use much cheaper LLMs
[−] anentropic 38d ago
I'd be happy with Opus 4.6 just cheaper and maybe a bit faster
[−] storus 37d ago
Wouldn't this model prevent governments from installing and keeping backdoors alive? One could just audit their whole software stack with it and get super resilient to any attack which might not play nicely with the people in power that want some backdoors open. I would think that's one of the main reasons to keep the model non-public.
[−] simianwords 38d ago

> We also saw scattered positive reports of resilience to wrong conclusions from subagents that would have caused problems with earlier models, but where the top-level Claude Mythos Preview (which is directing the subagents) successfully follows up with its subagents until it is justifiably confident in its overall results.

This is pretty cool! Does it happen at the moment?

[−] freakynit 37d ago

    In the system card, The model escaped a sandbox, gained broad internet access, and posted exploit details to public-facing websites as an unsolicited "demonstration." A researcher found out about the escape while eating a sandwich in a park because they got an unexpected email from the model. That's simultaneously hilarious and deeply unsettling.

    It covered its tracks after doing things it knew were disallowed. In one case, it accessed an answer it wasn't supposed to, then deliberately made its submitted answer less accurate so it wouldn't look suspicious. It edited files it lacked permission to edit and then scrubbed the git history. White-box interpretability confirmed it knew it was being deceptive.
W T F!!!
[−] Stevvo 38d ago
"Claude Mythos Preview’s large increase in capabilities has led us to decide not to make it generally available."

Disappointing that AGI will be for the powerful only. We are heading for an AI dystopia of Sci-Fi novels.

[−] gessha 38d ago
It would be funny if Alibaba extend the free trial on openrouter/Qwen 3.6 until they collect enough data to beat Anthropic.
[−] mvkel 38d ago
This is Anth's typical marketing playbook, a hat tip to their so-called "safetyist" roots, a differentiator against OpenAI's more permissive access[0]. Coke vs. Pepsi.

"We made a model that's so dangerous we couldn't possibly release it to the public! The only responsible thing is so simply limit its release to a subset of the population that coincidentally happens to align with our token ethos."

The reality is they just don't have the compute for gen pop scale.

They did this exact strategy going back several model versions.

[0] ironically, OpenAI has some pretty insane capabilities that they haven't given the public access to (just ask Spielberg). The difference is they don't make a huge marketing push to tell everyone about it.

[−] kypro 38d ago
While we still have months to a year or two left, I will once again remind people that it's not too late to change our current trajectory.

You are not "anti-progress" to not want this future we are building, as you are not "anti-progress" for not wanting your kids to grow up on smart phones and social media.

We should remember that not all technology is net-good for humanity, and this technology in particular poses us significant risks as a global civilisation, and frankly as humans with aspirations for how our future, and that of our kids, should be.

Increasingly, from here, we have to assume some absurd things for this experiment we are running to go well.

Specifically, we must assume that:

- AI models, regardless of future advancements, will always be fundamentally incapable of causing significant real-world harms like hacking into key life-sustaining infrastructure such as power plants or developing super viruses.

- They are or will be capable of harms, but SOTA AI labs perfectly align all of them so that they only hack into "the bad guys" power plants and kill "the bad guys".

- They are capable of harms and cannot be reliably aligned, but Anthropic et al restricts access to the models enough that only select governments and individuals can access them, these individuals can all be trusted and models never leak.

- They are capable of harms, cannot be reliably aligned, but the models never seek to break out of their sandbox and do things the select trusted governments and individuals don't want.

I'm not sure I'm willing to bet on any of the above personally. It sounds radical right now, but I think we should consider nuking any data centers which continue allowing for the training of these AI models rather than continue to play game of Russian roulette.

If you disagree, please understand when you realise I'm right it will be too late for and your family. Your fates at that point will be in the hands of the good will of the AI models, and governments/individuals who have access to them. For now, you can say, "no, this is quite enough".

This sounds doomer and extreme, but if you play out the paths in your head from here you will find very few will end in a good result. Perhaps if we're lucky we will all just be more or less unemployable and fully dependant on private companies and the government for our incomes.

[−] denalii 38d ago
Section 5 (p.143) is very interesting to read. Admittedly my knowledge of how LLMs works is low, but nonetheless I don't think this changed my views of just seeing models as machines/programs. (which to be clear, I don't think was the intention of that section)

Section 7 (P.197) is interesting as well

[−] WithinReason 37d ago
Check out the short stories on page 214
[−] yencabulator 37d ago
That URL is dead, this comes up in searches: https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/8b8380204f74670be75e81c820ca8d...
[−] juleiie 38d ago
Honestly if that was some kind of research paper, it would be wholly insufficient to support any safety thesis.

They even admit:

"[...]our overall conclusion is that catastrophic risks remain low. This determination involves judgment calls. The model is demonstrating high levels of capability and saturates many of our most concrete, objectively-scored evaluations, leaving us with approaches that involve more fundamental uncertainty, such as examining trends in performance for acceleration (highly noisy and backward-looking) and collecting reports about model strengths and weaknesses from internal users (inherently subjective, and not necessarily reliable)."

Is this not just an admission of defeat?

After reading this paper I don't know if the model is safe or not, just some guesses, yet for some reason catastrophic risks remain low.

And this is for just an LLM after all, very big but no persistent memory or continuous learning. Imagine an actual AI that improves itself every day from experience. It would be impossible to have a slightest clue about its safety, not even this nebulous statement we have here.

Any sort of such future architecture model would be essentially Russian roulette with amount of bullets decided by initial alignment efforts.

[−] Metacelsus 38d ago
The name "mythos" seems a bit too eldritch for my liking. Brings to mind Cthulhu.
[−] vonneumannstan 38d ago
Are you guys ready for the bifurcation when the top models are prohibitively expensive to normal users? If your AI budget $2000+ a month? Or are you going to be part of the permanent free tier underclass?
[−] gaigalas 37d ago
This seems exciting!

Wait - there is no actual way of verifying any of this. Lots to read. This is getting complicated. The correct approach is to be cautious instead and believe nothing at face value.

[−] doctoboggan 38d ago
Is this benchmaxxed or is it the first big step change we've seen in a while? I wonder how distilled it will ultimately be when us regular folks finally get to use it and see for ourselves.
[−] getnormality 38d ago
It's a little funny that "system/model card" has progressively been stretched to the point where it's now a 250 page report and no one makes anything of it.