Picasso’s Guernica (Gigapixel) (guernica.museoreinasofia.es)

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[−] habosa 30d ago
I went to Spain as a teenager and saw Guernica in person. It was the first painting to ever really have an effect on me. It's stunning. A perfect example of how art can transmit a message between people across time and space, I just knew that I was feeling how Picasso wanted me to feel.

If you have the chance to see this painting you should, no website can do it justice (although this is a very nice try).

[−] riffraff 30d ago
I have been to a bunch of galleries and seeing a painting in person doesn't usually make a difference for me compared to seeing it in a book.

Guernica is one of the few that did. Perhaps because it's massive compared to other well known paintings.

So, I just want to say, I second your recommendation for seeing it in person.

[−] Daub 30d ago
One of the things that made seeing this painting a valuable experience for me was the plentiful background material it was shown next to… drawings, paintings, sketches etc. it showed the depth of creative process that Picasso employed.

One thing I have not seen discussed here is the fact that this painting was commissioned by the (Spanish) Republican government. Effectively, there is a degree of propaganda to the painting. No shade on the guy… my other favorite war crime painting is the executions of the third of may by Goya, and it was also a political commission.

[−] gspr 30d ago
I had the same feeling when I saw it years ago. Dread, sadness, and a sinking stomach.

A few weeks ago I was vacationing in the Basque country, and realized Guernica (the town) was a mere half hour drive away. So we went. Although none of the town in any way reminds you of the depictions of the painting (save for some memorials), I kept feeling the same eerie dread even as I walked through a perfectly normal, pleasant sleepy town.

[−] cguess 29d ago
Every time I'm in Madrid I get up early (and since in Spain you eat at like 11pm that's not easy) and go to the museum the moment it opens just to get to Guernica and get as much time with it by myself as I can.

That early, before the tour groups have made it that far into the museum, you can actually get the entire space to yourself for >30 minutes and it's never left me not weeping.

[−] alphakappa 29d ago
It is stunning, particularly so if you read up on the history beforehand and then see all the elements in the painting. It’s the first time I was able to appreciate a Picasso for all the complexity he put into his paintings.

I was similarly stunned by one of the Anselm Kiefers at the Bilbao Guggenheim. Some paintings can only be appreciated in person.

[−] Synaesthesia 30d ago
Guernica shocked the world. It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians, something which we have sadly normalised since WW2. but which I regard as terrorism.

Picasso also painted another great work titled "Korea" in the same vein.

War is an abomination, something we should all fight against.

[−] otherme123 30d ago
There was this new theory at the dawn of air warfare called "Strategic Bombing", one of its main advocates was Giulio Dohet. The idea was that aircrafts could get behind the frontlines and bomb vital centers (civilians and production) freely. Hypothetically the morale would collapse, and lead quickly to surrendering. He even calculated that 300 tons of bombs per city over the most important cities would be enough to end a war in less than a month.

This theory couldn't be tested until late 1930's, when everyone was trying variations on the "technique", adding things like explosives, incendiary, gas... and escalating the amount of bombs needed to cause the mythical collapse. I think the record was 5 million tons of bombs over Vietnam (170 kg of bombs per capita), still the collapse didn't happen.

[−] aaa_aaa 30d ago
England and US carries the crown of the barbarism on this subject. And now the state of Israel. Check for names Frederick Lindemann, Arthur "Bomber" Harris and Sir Hugh Trenchard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing

[−] Ylpertnodi 30d ago

> England and US carries the crown of the barbarism...

Germany played a part. Snark aside, v1's and 2's weren't exactly 'targetted'.

[−] ninjin 30d ago

> I think the record was 5 million tons of bombs over Vietnam (170 kg of bombs per capita), still the collapse didn't happen.

Unsure about the tonnage, but the parallels to current events [1] and the illusion that a bombing campaign will suffice to end a war in a matter of weeks is rather eerie to me.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war

[−] edwcross 30d ago
Relevant ACOUP (A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry, Bret Devereaux's military history blog) post: https://acoup.blog/2022/10/21/collections-strategic-airpower...
[−] germandiago 30d ago
I am spanish and I know the details better than you I presume.

Guernica was in many ways something both the british and republicans made stand out for propaganda.

There have been far worse things in the spanish civil wars.

For example Cabra was bombed in a day of market with the intention of killing and without being any kind of strategic strategic objective, way further than Guernica from other objectives and with more dead civilians actually.

It is just less well known bc of who did it.

[−] baud147258 30d ago

> It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians

It had already started way before, right when armed forces started using planes, in WW1. (I was thinking even earlier, in Libya during the Italo-Turkish war of 1911, but I haven't found confirmation in a quick search)

[−] rainingmonkey 30d ago

>It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians

Mine owners hired planes to bomb striking miners at the Battle of Blair Mountain in 1921

[−] kjellsbells 30d ago
Years ago the BBC would put on educational distance learning TV on Saturday mornings. It's where I first learned group theory [0] ...and all about Guernica [1]. Both memorable TV for a bored teenager.

[0] https://youtu.be/wdYzAAG2VXs

[1] https://youtu.be/vuPNBeWmuSk

[−] djfergus 30d ago
Amazing thank you. Allows me to quote my favourite art anecdote:

When Picasso was interrogated by an SS officer about his painting Guernica, “Did you do that?” Picasso replied, “No, you did.”

[−] bigethan 30d ago
the way this displayed in the Reina Sofia is fantastic. it’s set in its own room that you approach from the side so you get this experience of turning a corner and boom there’s Guernica. Gave me chills.
[−] satvikpendem 30d ago
Somewhat similar in terms of the high resolutions of its images, I also want to recommend https://artsandculture.google.com/ which not many know about, it's a great resource to see and learn about art around the world.
[−] tzury 30d ago
Seems similar to operation night watch by the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam

https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/stories/operation-night-watch/...