Cirrus Labs to join OpenAI (cirruslabs.org)

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[−] maxloh 34d ago
Note that this is fundamentally different from the Astral acquisition. At the end of their announcement, they stated:

> Cirrus CI will shut down effective Monday, June 1, 2026.

And earlier in the article:

> Joining OpenAI allows us to extend the mission we started with Cirrus Labs: building new kinds of tooling and environments that make engineers more effective, for both human engineers and agentic engineers.

It isn't a product-led acquisition, but more a talent one.

[−] troyvit 34d ago
This is kind-of neat too, at least in the near term:

> In the coming weeks, we will relicense all of our source-available tools, including Tart, Vetu and Orchard under a more permissive license. We have also stopped charging licensing fees for them.

[−] rmast 34d ago
That part is amazing. Back when I first heard of tart I thought it was amazing, with the one downside being the license.

Hopefully development on it continues, or a community maintained version keeps it going.

[−] cschmatzler 34d ago
This is making my current work 100 times easier. Very welcome timing.
[−] naikrovek 34d ago
This is awesome because I flippin love tart.
[−] pxc 34d ago
This is a huge deal! I secretly hoped for this. :)
[−] fkorotkov 34d ago
Just want to note that we will continue maintaining and improving our virtualization solutions actually with even greater attention. SaaS options like Cirrus CI and Cirrus Runners will eventually wind down so we can focus on incorporating pieces internally.
[−] js2 34d ago
What are your plans for tart licensing going forward?

https://github.com/cirruslabs/tart/blob/main/LICENSE

https://tart.run/licensing/

[−] fkorotkov 34d ago
You’ll be pleasantly surprised. Updates in the coming weeks.

> In the coming weeks, we will relicense all of our source-available tools, including Tart, Vetu and Orchard under a more permissive license. We have also stopped charging licensing fees for them.

[−] naikrovek 34d ago
MIT or Apache2 or FreeBSD licenses would be preferable in my case, but GPLv2 or even AGPLv3 (if you have to) would work.

If you’re taking requests…

[−] tclancy 34d ago
That sounds like a British phrase for pimping.
[−] CompoundEyes 34d ago
If your scope includes making the Codex web app environments have additional functionality I look forward to it. More enterprise features and yaml backed pipelines.
[−] mogili1 34d ago
If you are interested in yaml backed pipelines check out this open source tool I built for exactly this purpose:

https://github.com/smogili1/circuit

[−] elAhmo 34d ago
For now.
[−] rmast 34d ago
I mostly clicked the link because I was curious if Cirrus Labs operates Cirrus CI and if so how that would be impacted.

Looks like I’ll need to move the FreeBSD CI jobs for open source projects I maintain to another solution. Anyone have suggestions for alternatives?

[−] a1o 34d ago
I guess qemu over Ubuntu-latest from GitHub Actions running freebsd, but it will be a bit flaky
[−] rurban 33d ago
Same for me. I liked the native BSD runners, qemu on gh is much slower.
[−] hirako2000 34d ago
It could also be a suite of product acquisition, the CI could be a product OpenAI is interested in having, but not sell.
[−] trollbridge 34d ago
Yeah. Much like Astral - acquiring both the product (because they need to use it internally, but don't care about trying to resell / market), and they also want the talent to keep maintaining it / add features they want.
[−] super256 33d ago

>It isn't a product-led acquisition, but more a talent one.

I am pretty sure OAI mostly cares about their virtualization IP for MacOS. They already extensively use WSL2 for sandboxing Codex on Windows, and I imagine they want something similar for Codex on Mac.

[−] koolhead17 34d ago
Is Sam or family an investor in them anyways?
[−] fkorotkov 34d ago
We were 100% bootstrapped with no outside capital or support/advisory.
[−] koolhead17 33d ago
Congrats, I am sure you and team made some $$$.
[−] elromulous 34d ago
Did anyone else think this was Cirrus Logic?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_Logic

[−] tonyarkles 33d ago
I definitely had to look and see if this was the same company, yes.

Edit: TIL “Apple makes up 89% of the company's revenue in 2025”

[−] drzaiusx11 34d ago
For a hot second yes, and I even use the modern one's tart cli
[−] boudin 34d ago
Yes, it brought back some video card memories
[−] bartekpacia 34d ago
Wow, this is surprising.

I’m happy for the founders, they’re great folks. I contributed to CirrusCI a bit in the past and it was a great experience. I even advocated for Cirrus in a couple of my last $DAYJOBs (with varied success). Congrats Fedor!

I’m very sad they’re shutting down, though. IMHO CirrusCI was very close to a perfect CI system (I wrote a blogpost about it [0]). I’ll now have to find something to replace it with in my personal projects. I guess I’ll run their cirrus-cli in GitHub Actions for a while. But GitHub Actions is really poor. I heard some good things about Buildkite.

[0]: https://garden.pacia.tech/cirrus_ci_is_the_best.html

[−] codethief 33d ago

> I wrote a blogpost about it [0]

Having tried many other CI systems, all of which ultimately turned out to be subpar, it makes me incredibly sad to discover only now that Cirrus CI is (was?) quite a bit better than them. :( Thanks for the blog post, though!

[−] tagraves 33d ago
Well, check out RWX! We don't do exactly everything like CirrusCI did -- most notably, we aren't open source and we are still managing all of our own infrastructure for running CI right now -- but we have a great "local" story and a validation CLI (rwx lint), and a lot of fundamental changes that make us better than other CI systems too :)
[−] emptysongglass 33d ago
Why would anyone move to a closed-source tool like yours? It's 2026.
[−] MaxLeiter 34d ago
FTA:

> In 2022, we built Tart, which became the most popular virtualization solution for Apple Silicon, along with several other tools along the way.

from Tart's github:

> [Tart is for] macOS and Linux VMs on Apple Silicon to use in CI and other automations

My (naive?) hypothesis is this kind of expertise is why OpenAI chose to acquihire.

[−] threecheese 34d ago
Same; the reason everyone ran out to buy Mac Minis last month is it gave their Claw access to iMessage, their browser cookies, and a residential IP. Cirrus provides a way to provision and orchestrate MacOS VMs, which is exactly what I did for running Openclaw (for a minute …).
[−] jen20 34d ago
Not to sell Tart short (it is quite good), but it's "just" a wrapper around Virtualization.framework with a few extra pieces. This is the kind of thing that Codex driven by experts _should_ be able to build very easily.
[−] dangoodmanUT 33d ago
Note that apples terms do not allow someone to sell something like an agent running on macOS. They have explicit cut outs for 24-hour minimum leases of full hardware, but they prohibit this with vms
[−] bombcar 34d ago
I liked “our incredible journey” more when it wasn’t rushing headlong into OpenMawAI
[−] jwpapi 34d ago
So AI company buys devs again, but devs are dead
[−] trollbridge 34d ago
The level of aqui-hires is getting interesting - at this point, it appears that if one wants one's career to progress, you need to start some kind of tiny startup like Astral or Bun and hope to be notable enough you can get acquired by someone like OpenAI or Anthropic.

It certainly makes the idea of a career progression / promotion more challenging than it used to be, but perhaps it also opens up some new opportunities. It becomes far more "high stakes" since you have to take the risk of starting and running a startup that ultimately fails if it does not get acqui-hired.

[−] faangguyindia 34d ago
I've moved most companies away from using others stuff

Today we use Hertzner and OVH and roll out our own solution whenever possible.

Running lean and mean.

Depending on such third party services is a trap.

[−] spooneybarger 34d ago
Cirrus gave a ton of support for years to open source projects. I congratulate them on cashing out. Running a business like Cirrus did is always a hard road and I will never fault folks who gave time and resources on their platform away for taking the money.

I wish Fedor and everyone at Cirrus the best of luck and OpenAI and thank them immensely for the years of free CI they gave to us in the Pony programming language despite it not having any marketing value to them.

[−] qqasG12 34d ago
It looks like OpenAI has no clue what to do and does what every software company without a plan does: create new dev tools and a new dev stack.

So they want an integrated solution with CI, Python packaging and vibe coding.

That is a $100 million valuation at best, not a $1 trillion one.

[−] emptysongglass 34d ago
Wow Cirrus was like the one cool CI thing with first-class Podman support. RIP. Guess I'm looking elsewhere (and not at Dagger which refuses to support rootless Podman).
[−] fnord77 34d ago

> I wanted to work on fun and challenging engineering problems, in the hope of bootstrapping a business as a byproduct.

> We never raised outside capital

I guess it worked out though

[−] seekdeep 34d ago
A pity. Cirrus has been providing quite decent CI facilities, for free. One of the advantages (among many) compared to GitHub Actions is the large variety of runner images, e.g., Debian, Fedora, Alpine, FreeBSD, ...
[−] diimdeep 34d ago
[−] prodigycorp 34d ago
I don't think people have been keeping track but OpenAI has been hiring a murderer's row of developers for their Codex team.
[−] yoyohello13 34d ago
Incredible how many people are perfectly fine working for a company making AI powered murder bots.
[−] dennisy 34d ago
Congratulations!

Can you talk a bit more about your journey without raising funds?

Also what does HN think of that path today when trying to launch a new AI startup?