"X" is in a weird place now. The monetization of engagement absolutely wrecked the feeds from my cursory glance. Just ragebaiting, vague posting, abuse (for a while, every female posting would have someone in the replies doing "grok, put OP in a bikini" and it would post sexualized images of them). Someone vent viral by posting a picture of Steve Jobs' daughter (?), and people try to replicate that as that now generates money. Replies to posts are just bluechecks being insane, or farm accounts spamming unrelated stuff hoping to get impressions and generate some dollars.
I used to follow only cycling/urban related accounts for the town I live in. Most of them left, so maybe that's making it hard for the algorithm, but my feed is now just far right immigration propaganda by blue checks, or lots of US issues (I'm not in the US). Not a nice place to be, but I can see how it can be addicting / trigger something in the brain.
> Most of them left, so maybe that's making it hard for the algorithm, but my feed is now just far right immigration propaganda by blue checks
Working as intended. It has been very clear for a very long time (in “Internet time”) that Mr “Free Speech Absolutist” Musk is only really interested in supporting far right propaganda.
> Not a nice place to be, but I can see how it can be addicting / trigger something in the brain.
Honest question, why would anyone willingly browse X? Why have an account there when it’s not even giving you anything nice? Delete the account. Stop visiting the site.
Honest question, why would anyone willingly browse X?
I don't know the psychology, but there absolutely is something akin to "outrage porn". Like, something in your brain wants you to go in and be outraged and annoyed about how stupid other's are, and how much better you are.
Maybe it’s related to the tendency of a group to think the way other groups do things is weird/wrong to justify the existence/stance of the group. like “those people all look stupid, they don’t dress properly like we do” type middle school stuff.
I generally look at the political & social viewpoints of others to try and understand their viewpoint to some degree. Not for outrage. Even if I consider those viewpoints extreme or counter to my own.
I stopped using all of that style of social media, mainly for this reason. First it was Facebook a couple decades ago. I figured I can deal with only hearing from my family once in a while, in real life and emails, and blissfully missing all those photos of the food they're about to eat.
Social media has just gotten worse and worse since Facebook, to the point I can't even bother with Mastodon anymore (and I don't. I gave that up a few months back).
The main thing I like here - I get the info I was hoping to see in the first place, but without all the baggage. Even when that baggage seeps in, it is (very) short term. The ycombinator news mods are exceptional.
This site isn't all that "Social" per se, but the threads generally stay on topic, and aren't constantly trying to sell you something nobody ever asked for.
> every female posting would have someone in the replies doing "grok, put OP in a bikini"
I get these tweets randomly in my Timeline as well. What I don't understand is why does Twitter think I should know about someone asking Grok to put xxx in Bikini
My guess would be that they amplify tweets involving Grok as a form of advertising. I think they disabled tagging Grok for non paying users, so I guess they do it to advertise its capabilities. And because their user base is so toxic that mostly means amplifying things like that.
This is a command to the Grok bot and used to generate an image based on the post and that specific prompt. After significant outrage they disabled it for non-paying users at least, not sure if they changed more about this later.
> my feed is now just far right immigration propaganda by blue checks, or lots of US issues (I'm not in the US)
> (for a while, every female posting would have someone in the replies doing "grok, put OP in a bikini")
This is now the purpose of the site: racism and sexism. There was once a time when it would have been the place to follow the Hungarian election, now I have to make to with a few people on bluesky.
My 'For you' feed is almost exclusively Photography, science and tech news.
I believe it strongly depends on what you interact with.
At some point I also had a lot of US news in my feed, but once I stopped opening those posts and instead used the 'Not interested in this post' button or muted the author, they disappeared.
Probably following other accounts or liking photography posts also helped.
I created an account in X yesterday because I'm trying to get more involved into building in public and the social aspect of development and I was shocked to see nowadays you can pay for X premium where the more you pay, the more interactions you get to your tweets.
At the end I just deleted it and created an account into Bluesky instead.
Posting here since I am curious if any friends on HN have faced the same AI based banning. I have had a Twitter account since like 2008 and they just did this- like folks on reddit are reporting appeals just get robo-rejected. Is there any way to reach a human at X? I have some SWEs and SREs in my linkedin account as second and third person contacts but reaching out there just feels wrong. Putting AI in charge of Auto banning 10+ year old paying accounts is insane. There is another thread on this same issue here https://www.reddit.com/r/twitterhelp/comments/1sfn3l4/has_an...
Same here. Premium account, years old, barely post, banned with no explanation.
What’s worse: no way to notify followers or export data after a ban.
Lesson here: Never outsource your identity or communication to a platform you don’t control, treat them as disposable channels, that might disappear any day.
Most social media has been has been utterly untenable forever, but Twitter and Discord are the most troublesome in my experience. It's so hard to create and use a new account on those sites without the rigmarole of captcha (due to suspicious activity) -> banned (due to suspicious activity) -> captcha (due to suspicious activity) -> verify email (due to suspicious activity) -> banned (due to suspicious activity) -> verify phone number (due to suspicious activity). Then, want to follow someone, or join a guild? Hmm.. your account reputation is too low. Try again in a week?
I don't know how people do it. I can only figure it's my fault for running Linux or Firefox or not Signing in with Google™, upsetting the data harvesting overlords.
My X account was banned about a week ago. I use X in an unusual way: I open up fifty tabs a day of people I want to read and see what they've posted in the past day. But I don't use the default feed at all. I often 'like' posts, but I very rarely post anything myself. I don't think I violated any X rules. But I can see why an algorithm think I look a little bit bot-ish.
I appealed the ban but AI declined my appeal. I couldn't circumvent the ban by using a VPN plus a different browser. I thought that would change my fingerprint enough to not be detectable, but perhaps I'm still detectable or perhaps my fingerprint through the VPN just looks suspicious.
Now I'm using something called "Gologin" that gives me a browser with a less unique footprint plus a residential IP in the USA. I have to pay for it. But at least I can use X still.
As far as I know reddit does the same thing. If you don’t follow normal human patterns you will quickly get banned. I read some guy’s report where he got banned 8 times detailing each behaviour and indeed it was nothing crazy.
I've also been suspended for breaking their terms and services, even though I haven't done anything wrong. It was probably my VPN. Luckily, my account got unsuspended, but I ain't using that platform anymore
We simply need open, decentralized or distributed platforms. Nostr is not that excellent, but it works, and have a potential to became "unified personal web platform", take a look at it.
I'm not touching seedy X any more - if there's someone linking to it the 'toXcancel' extension shows me the content while shielding me from Musk's actual sht pit.
X has been dead to me for years now. It's all Nazi propaganda, rage bait and CSAM. I honestly think it should be banned. Under Musk it became as bad as the ugly side of 4chan.
Sorry, but Twitter is only for bots now. Real humans need not log on. /s
That being said, I assume that it flagged the amount/frequency of likes or whatever other activity and thought it was suspicious. Probably used Grok to do that and it obviously isn't good at that.
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I used to follow only cycling/urban related accounts for the town I live in. Most of them left, so maybe that's making it hard for the algorithm, but my feed is now just far right immigration propaganda by blue checks, or lots of US issues (I'm not in the US). Not a nice place to be, but I can see how it can be addicting / trigger something in the brain.
> Most of them left, so maybe that's making it hard for the algorithm, but my feed is now just far right immigration propaganda by blue checks
Working as intended. It has been very clear for a very long time (in “Internet time”) that Mr “Free Speech Absolutist” Musk is only really interested in supporting far right propaganda.
> Not a nice place to be, but I can see how it can be addicting / trigger something in the brain.
Honest question, why would anyone willingly browse X? Why have an account there when it’s not even giving you anything nice? Delete the account. Stop visiting the site.
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Honest question, why would anyone willingly browse X?I don't know the psychology, but there absolutely is something akin to "outrage porn". Like, something in your brain wants you to go in and be outraged and annoyed about how stupid other's are, and how much better you are.
Tried to search around for why it happens, this has some thoughts, "The dangerous pleasures of outrage": https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/domestic-intelligenc...
> The pleasure of strong negative judgment becomes so enjoyable we seek opportunities to trigger it
That being said I don't browse X.
Social media has just gotten worse and worse since Facebook, to the point I can't even bother with Mastodon anymore (and I don't. I gave that up a few months back).
The main thing I like here - I get the info I was hoping to see in the first place, but without all the baggage. Even when that baggage seeps in, it is (very) short term. The ycombinator news mods are exceptional.
This site isn't all that "Social" per se, but the threads generally stay on topic, and aren't constantly trying to sell you something nobody ever asked for.
AI is not the fakest thing in social media.
> every female posting would have someone in the replies doing "grok, put OP in a bikini"
I get these tweets randomly in my Timeline as well. What I don't understand is why does Twitter think I should know about someone asking Grok to put xxx in Bikini
> my feed is now just far right immigration propaganda by blue checks, or lots of US issues (I'm not in the US)
> (for a while, every female posting would have someone in the replies doing "grok, put OP in a bikini")
This is now the purpose of the site: racism and sexism. There was once a time when it would have been the place to follow the Hungarian election, now I have to make to with a few people on bluesky.
I believe it strongly depends on what you interact with.
At some point I also had a lot of US news in my feed, but once I stopped opening those posts and instead used the 'Not interested in this post' button or muted the author, they disappeared.
Probably following other accounts or liking photography posts also helped.
At the end I just deleted it and created an account into Bluesky instead.
What’s worse: no way to notify followers or export data after a ban.
Lesson here: Never outsource your identity or communication to a platform you don’t control, treat them as disposable channels, that might disappear any day.
I don't know how people do it. I can only figure it's my fault for running Linux or Firefox or not Signing in with Google™, upsetting the data harvesting overlords.
I appealed the ban but AI declined my appeal. I couldn't circumvent the ban by using a VPN plus a different browser. I thought that would change my fingerprint enough to not be detectable, but perhaps I'm still detectable or perhaps my fingerprint through the VPN just looks suspicious.
Now I'm using something called "Gologin" that gives me a browser with a less unique footprint plus a residential IP in the USA. I have to pay for it. But at least I can use X still.
Real discussions with friends happen in group chats, without all the crap and noise.
That being said, I assume that it flagged the amount/frequency of likes or whatever other activity and thought it was suspicious. Probably used Grok to do that and it obviously isn't good at that.