Show HN: Every CEO and CFO change at US public companies, live from SEC (tracksuccession.com)

by porsche959 63 comments 191 points
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[−] thedougd 30d ago
What would also be very interesting is a graph of relationships and movements. Let's see just how incestuous the boards really are, and what's going on with serial CEOs who move from one business to the next.
[−] StrauXX 30d ago
Northdata [1] does basically this, but mostly ingests European data currently. Perhaps they will expand to ingest US data as well at some point. Not affiliated with them in any way. I just use them to look into company structures every now and again.

[1] https://www.northdata.com/

[−] abstracthinking 30d ago
I worked on a knowledge graph map using Wikidata to get relationship between people and organizations, but data was limited to family, basic stuff. Being from Europe, there isn't an open data analogue of SEC. Now I will download this data, it is open so no license at all, and try to show these kind of relationships. It has the potential of being very investigative, especially for USA residents.
[−] HWR_14 30d ago
Is it that Europe doesn't have any open data analogues of the SEC, or is it that each European country has its own open data analog?
[−] abstracthinking 30d ago
Each european countries has various orgs, types of license. It is easier to start from SEC to integrate that data into my site, also you have to test a bit what users care about.
[−] jasonjayr 30d ago
Wondering aloud -- this is clearly PII, but it's public information. The site would be subject to GDPR, and other rules from the EU, and folks may want to have their data hidden or removed. What would be the exposure for sourcing EU data?
[−] text0404 29d ago
You're looking for https://theyrule.net/
[−] porsche959 30d ago
Interesting idea...tracking which execs move together or which board members overlap across companies. Maybe in next turn
[−] czbond 30d ago

> incestuous

Is it that? Or would it be similar to when you have a lot of responsibility (like leading a company) you tend to bring along people you know you can trust and can help you succeed?

[−] hliyan 30d ago
Given this is failing due to HN hug of death, might I suggest that you do a periodic batch, save the results and serve static?
[−] porsche959 30d ago
Thank you very much. Great call
[−] tristor 30d ago
I think one of the interesting things here is that many senior executives make similar base pay to very senior ICs. The primary compensation difference is in their equity compensation, where executives get massive PSU/RSU packages, while senior ICs get much more modest packages. A senior IC may have 30-50% of their compensation as stock, while a typical senior executives may have as much as 97% of their compensation as stock.
[−] balderdash 30d ago
I think this is a good thing? At least from the perspective of aligning incentives with shareholders?
[−] tristor 30d ago
Maybe? I think the jury might still be out on whether equity compensation aligns incentives. Most equity compensation is treated same-as-cash for the perspective of taxation, and unless there are regulatory or contractual limits affecting holdings, it's commonplace for executives to offload shares as they vest as part of normal compensating activities just like your typical FAANG engineer does.

I was thinking it was interesting more from the socioeconomic perspective:

1. Senior execs are still "working for the man", even if their compensation is materially different from other employees, except in the case of founders of mega-caps.

2. From a socioeconomic lifestyle perspective, the primary differentiator is that senior executives can afford larger one-time costs/upfront costs due to their equity compensation, but have to maintain fairly similar ongoing costs to senior ICs. E.g. a senior exec can afford to buy a nicer house in SFBA because of Prop 13 limiting ongoing property taxes and the ability to shell out more up front to either avoid a mortgage or minimize payments, but their ongoing lifestyle expenses otherwise are most likely not materially different.

Basically, given the rhetoric, I was expecting that senior execs were essentially living in a totally different parallel world from senior ICs in tech, but it doesn't seem that this is really the case /other than/ probably social connections and society. In both cases these employees are highly compensated, but still ultimately employees, and neither is on a rocketship into the billionaire class. The difference between a billionaire and a 50-millioniare (senior exec) is about a billion dollars, the difference between a billionaire and a 3-millionaire (senior IC) is about a billion dollars.

Maybe my take is wrong, but I'd expect that is more about fringe benefits (e.g. access to corporate PJ) than direct compensation.

[−] zipy124 30d ago
No. It encourages short term thinking which can boost profits whilst harming long term performance. As an insider you can usually hide the long term consequences until after you have liquidated your stock.
[−] balderdash 29d ago
Isn’t that why a lot of the options are long dated / issuance of restricted stock? Im not saying it’s perfect, but it seems better than annual cash bonus?
[−] rustystump 30d ago
Sbc is not always good for shareholders if anything it can obfuscate actual valuations
[−] Nuzzerino 30d ago
Getting “literally who” vibes from the list of execs that were listed with a job title but not a company name.

Mobile browser, if that makes a difference (maybe one of the people on the list helped me downsize as well at some point without me realizing it).

[−] porsche959 30d ago
thats a bug. thanks for flagging. The company name is there but gets cut off on mobile. Will fix the layout.
[−] WA 30d ago
Nice idea. Small thing: the categories are pretty much fixed. If you have to abbreviate a never-changing category like "Consumer Defen..." in a widget, your design doesn't work in this aspect.
[−] porsche959 30d ago
Thanks for the feedback
[−] artembugara 30d ago
You can also check any signal from publicly available sources using tools like CatchAll.

For example, "CEO and CFO appointments at US public companies in the last two weeks" found 142 records [0]

You can also set up monitors to get updates.

[0] https://platform.newscatcherapi.com/catchall/example/gtm--ex...

[−] gbibas 30d ago
You hit on something that AI can be really good at, which is shining light on corporate activities. Salary and movement are great, and interesting, but this could also help parse things like entry and exits into business markets where companies often quietly add or remove things from their filings. Keep going.
[−] porsche959 30d ago
you are absolutely right - filings have a ton of signals beyond just the exec changes. Market entries, risk factor changes, material agreements. Lot of room to expand.
[−] culi 29d ago
Essentially a cleaner, filtered, partial front-end for https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&C...
[−] abstracthinking 30d ago
Interesting, you should save part of the data to do some caching and avoid api requests for old positions.
[−] eddy_cammegh 30d ago
How does the comp extraction work? 8-K prose has no standard format so curious whether you're running it through an LLM or using a rules-based parser, and how you handle amendments where the actual figures show up in a later filing.
[−] itissid 30d ago
Interesting. How do you yourself use this(I am assuming of course you built it out of a need to want to have to track this data)?
[−] karmelapple 30d ago
Great proof of concept!

At the top it says:

> 2,100+ > CEO, CFO, Board, and other executive changes tracked in the past 30 days

Could you add a little metric there such as how many companies are being tracked, and perhaps how that compares to the previous 30 days, or 6 months ago, or 12 months ago?

Maybe a graph showing how many changes happen each month, so we can see when things are more volatile or not.

[−] chollida1 30d ago
Nice work.

I remember giving this task to a summer co-op 10-12 years ago. it was alot harder to scrape the edgar site then and gather all for form 4 filings without the new api call first interface and the XBML markup in 10-K and 10-Q filings.

[−] mtam 30d ago
Is the equity piece one-time or yearly grants? I think it is adding up yearly salary with one-time equity grants. Also, how about bonuses?
[−] baxtr 30d ago
Nice job! Is there a way to double click on any name to see more details on the person like previous positions or current compensation?
[−] djfobbz 30d ago
The site fails to load...it just gets stuck in a fetching state. Another downside of vibe programming.
[−] UqWBcuFx6NV4r 30d ago
Another downside of AI is that people for whom today is obviously their first day using the internet will buy into the AI culture war without restraint and blame every little thing under the sun on “AI”. I can assure you that message boards were bringing websites down since before you were born.
[−] xnorswap 30d ago
Sites going down under load is hardly a new phenomenon.
[−] djfobbz 30d ago
Sure, it's not new. Neither are memory leaks and race conditions...but we still expect competent engineers to avoid them. It's like opening a store but the doors jam the moment customers walk in. A crowd isn't the problem, your setup is.
[−] porsche959 30d ago
Back up now...first time getting real traffic. Appreciate the patience.
[−] Thoko14 30d ago
Interesting part will be what do we read out of that data
[−] porsche959 30d ago
100% - will be cool to see any recurring patterns, which sectors churn most, how comp varies by industry, etc. Gets more useful as the dataset grows.
[−] arikrahman 30d ago
Says it's unable to respond at the moment.
[−] porsche959 30d ago
Should be back up now. Got hit with way more traffic than expected.
[−] htrp 30d ago
did you write the SEC parsers yourself or use oss/off the shelf tech?
[−] porsche959 30d ago
Built it myself. The filing structure is somewhat consistent enough to parse programmatically, then an LLM handles the unstructured parts (with a lot of trial and error)
[−] just_once 30d ago
And you just scrape it straight from sec.gov?
[−] leobuskin 30d ago
What's the backend? I'd recommend to migrate such project to the edge (Cloudflare, etc)
[−] gmatt 29d ago
been mulling visualizing this for years.. nice work.
[−] infecto 30d ago
Fun project but meh on subscription. This data already exists in much better detail including full network graphs of people and many additional data points. Financial data is a hard problem because it’s not only hard to offer something new but also your only real consumer unless novel data is going to be retail.
[−] porsche959 30d ago
Agreed, the big providers like Bloomberg cover this space with way more depth. I'm building for the teams that can't justify those budgets (small sales teams, independent recruiters, solo advisors)
[−] abstracthinking 30d ago
I agree with you, site also looks too much a one day vibecoded stuff. Can you give me references where I can these graphs of people, I am interested because I am working on something similar.
[−] mikedillion 30d ago
“Real time”
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